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July 10, 2019
Risky Business #547 -- Zoom-gate, massive GDPR fines, ship hack warnings and more
Adam Boileau is along this week to discuss the week’s security news. We cover: Zoom’s week from hell BA, Marriott face massive GDPR fines Seth Rich conspiracy originated from Russia’s SVR Coast Guard warns of ship hax Cybercommand issues warning on DDE exploitation PGP ecosystem having a rough time Much, much more! This week’s show is brought to you by our lovely friends at Signal Sciences. I guess you’d call them a next generation WAF. Signal Sciences co-founder and CTO Zane Lackey will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to plug their new cloud-based WAF product, and also to have a chat about a trend he’s seeing at non-security conferences – more high quality security content. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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July 4, 2019
Risky Biz Soap Box: Cylance talks Persona
As regular listeners know, this isn’t the weekly Risky Biz news and current affairs show, if you want that, scroll back in the podcast feed to the previous podcast. This is a Soap Box edition, a solely sponsored podcast series we do here at Risky Biz where vendors pay us to come on to the show to talk about, well, whatever they want, really. We’ve heard Duo Security talking about WebAuthn, we’ve got one with Proofpoint coming up that’s about insights they’ve gleaned from filtering such ridiculous amounts of email. But in this edition, Garret Grajek from BlackBerry Cylance will be along to talk about its new product, Cylance Persona. This latest product is kinda out of the box, it’s a machine learning classifier that you install on the endpoint that learns what the typical user behaviour looks like. Once the observed user behaviour starts diverging from what’s expected, it can perform actions – like kicking up for 2fa, locking the user out, whatever you want, really. It’s a novel approach to dealing with compromised endpoints. Two factor authentication is great, but if your endpoints are hosed that doesn’t really count for much. And that’s really what this new gear is about.
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July 3, 2019
Risky Business #546 -- The fifth domain sees some action
Adam Boileau is along this week to discuss the week’s security news. We cover: NYTimes reports USA is getting all up in Russia’s grids Kremlin not happy CYBERCOM targets Iranian rocket control and APT crews TRITON attackers target US grid Turla completes hostile takeover of Oilrig Reuters publishes huge feature on Cloudhopper/APT10 China pwns global telcos, targets key subscribers FVEY owns Yandex Tourists entering Xinjiang now have mobile malware installed at border Florida city governments having a bad time Much, much more! This week’s edition of Risky Business is brought to you by Senetas. They make layer 2 encryption tech, but they’ve also got a content disarm and reconstruction play now, Votiro, as well as their safe file sharing platform SureDrop. But we’re sticking with encryption in this week’s sponsor interview. Senetas CTO Julian Fay will be along a bit later to talk about his trip to the International Crypto Module Conference. He’ll fill us in on what the agenda was there – lots of talk about quantum resistant crypto and also some talk about streamlining various certification regimes. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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June 15, 2019
Feature podcast: An interview with Jim Baker, former general counsel, FBI
This is the first edition of a new series of podcasts we’re doing here at Risky.Biz that will focus on cyber policy issues. The Hewlett Foundation approached us a while back to see if we’d be interested in doing this series we jumped at the opportunity. The Foundation funds a lot of interesting people and work in the cybersecurity space. So the idea is pretty simple: we can talk to some of Hewlett’s grant recipients or experts in its network about pressing policy issues and turn those conversations into podcasts. The whole idea is to get some policy perspectives out there among the Risky Business audience, which, funnily enough, includes a lot of policy people. Our first cab off the rank is this interview with Jim Baker. He joined the Department of Justice in 1990 and rose through the ranks to become the FBI general counsel in January 2014, a position he held until December 2017. So of course he was running all things legal for the FBI during the Apple-FBI dispute over a locked iPhone 5C recovered from the gunman responsible for the San Bernardino shooting. Baker was the US Government’s point man on all things encryption, taking stances that outraged technologists and reinvigorated a policy debate that had – at least to a degree – stagnated for years. These days, Jim Baker serves as Director of the R Street think tank’s National Security and Cybersecurity Program. This interview focusses on the so-called encryption wars. The FBI and other law enforcement/intelligence agencies want better access to encrypted material, while technologists say that’s impossible to accomplish without introducing unacceptable risks into the technology ecosystem. Baker shares his view on the topic. The Australian government law enforcement and intelligence agencies guide to the Assistance and Access Act, which is mentioned in the introduction to the podcast, can be found here. (Ironically enough, served over http!) PLEASE NOTE: Jim Baker joined our meeting via a phone call, so the audio quality here isn’t up to our usual standards. Sorry about that!
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June 12, 2019
Risky Business #545 -- US Government loses control of customs mugshot database
On this week’s show Adam Boileau and Patrick Gray discuss the week’s news, including: CBP loses photo and license plate database Some Android phones shipped with backdoor Info on Google’s cloud outage USG ramps up “defend forward” Trump and Mnuchin can’t get their stories straight on Huawei The latest from Baltimore, more on that RDP bug TalkTalk hacker sentenced Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Remediant! Remediant CEO Tim Keeler will be along this week to have a chinwag. We’ll talk about how simple security tech is really en vogue these days and how that’s a good thing. Links to everything are below, and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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June 5, 2019
Risky Business #544 -- NYTimes Baltimore report falls over
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam talk through all the week’s security news, including: NYTimes story on EternalBlue and Baltimore is bunk An RDP worm is feeling kind of inevitable Iran is still getting Shadowbrokersed Intercept has a great feature on SID Today dumps Australian Federal Police crack down on national security journalism Phantom Secure CEO gets nine years and loses $80m Silk Road 2.0 admin must be an amazing snitch Another Bitcoin tumbler bites the dust Much, much more This week’s sponsor interview is with Marco Slaviero of Thinkst Canary. Marco is joining us this week to talk about how he thinks web application-based deception techniques are kind of a waste of time right now. We talk about how deception approaches work best in privileged domains, then we talk about how security teams do better when they have a dedicated ops developer.
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May 29, 2019
Risky Business #543 -- NYTimes blames NSA for Baltimore hacks, Assange faces espionage charges
Adam Boileau couldn’t make it this week, but that’s ok because we’ve got former Facebook CSO and current Stanford adjunct professor Alex Stamos filling in for him in today’s show. He’ll be talking through all the week’s security news, including: NYTimes report blames Baltimore ransomware attack on leaked NSA exploit Assange to face espionage charges, extradition fight looming SanboxEscaper just keeps dropping those 0days Fury over Facebook’s response to doctored Pelosi video Much, much more This week’s sponsor interview with David Warburton of F5 Networks. You know F5 as a blinky-light box manufacturer. Load balancers, SSL termination, that sort of stuff. Not exactly a growth industry at the moment, so they’re pivoting. They’ve dropped $670m on NGINX – f5 now owns the NGINX company – and they’re making all sorts of moves in the appsec space. That interview is mostly about F5’s business, but I found it interesting because what do you do when you’re an $8bn company that makes data-centre equipment and that industry starts going into decline? Links to everything discussed are below, and you can follow Patrick or Alex on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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May 23, 2019
Risky Biz Soap Box: VMRay CEO Carsten Willems talks sandbox tech
This is not the regular Risky Business weekly show, the Soap Box series of podcasts that run on Risky.Biz are wholly sponsored. Everyone you hear in Soap Box paid to be here. With that disclaimer out of the way, this is actually a really interesting conversation. Carsten Willems is the co-founder and CEO of VMRay, a company that makes… well.. what do you call it? Is it an incident response tool? Is it a detection tool? Or is it just a good hypervisor-based sandbox that you can use to do both of those things? I’m going to say it’s the third – VMRay is a company that makes a great hyper-visor sandbox and has applied that technology to both response and detection. In an ideal world you’d have a team of malware reversers on staff pulling apart every single binary that looks shady. But this isn’t a perfect world, so that’s never going to happen. So the original use case that Carsten and his team set out to solve was around automating malware reversing. They build a hyper-visor based sandbox that’s very hard to bypass, you can run your standard build on it, throw binaries and documents at it and see what blows up. That’s really the primary use case here. But there is a second use case, which is detection. VMRay can give you a pretty decent risk score on samples, and they’ve entered into a few OEM arrangements with vendors to provide that extra level of detection. I’d never met Carsten Willems before we prepared this podcast, but it’s safe to say we hit it off. This podcast basically turned into Carsten telling his story, the story of where VMRay came from and where he wants it to go. Enjoy!
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May 22, 2019
Risky Business #542 -- Confusion reigns over Huawei ban
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam talk through all the week’s security news, including: New executive order paved way for Huawei ban Google pulls service from Huawei No wait, that’s not right, it’s for new handsets The ban’s now reversed to allow them to continue the support that they didn’t have to discontinue? I’m so confused ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Israeli broadcaster fingers Hamas over Eurovision coverage hack New moves to regulate offensive cyber services Salesforce has a bad time Instagram influencers have a bad time (Hah!) OGUsers pwned Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by CMD Security. They make security software for Linux that does two things – firstly it gives you visibility into what’s happening on your Linux workloads, which actions are being performed by which accounts, that sort of thing. The second thing it does is allow you to lock down accounts by action, rather than by traditional privilege. They’re funded by Google Ventures, among others, and although they’re a relatively small and new company I think they’re going to do really well. Jake was just at a MITRE conference in Brussels that was all about the Attack Matrix. He’s joining me this week to have a bit of talk about his experience at that event, then we’ll be talking through some of the issues he’s seeing out there in Linux cloud workload land. Jake’s a great communicator and a very smart guy and that interview is a lot of fun. Links to everything are below, and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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May 16, 2019
Risky Biz Soap Box: Signal Sciences on serverless, app-layer deception and more
This isn’t our weekly news and current affairs show, this is a wholly sponsored podcast we do here at Risky Biz. The idea behind Soap Box is vendors pay to come on to the show and talk about the things they want to talk about. Today’s Soap Box is brought to you by Signal Sciences. If you’re not familiar with them, they make web security software. If you operate a website and you’re looking to auto-block a lot of the common attacks and attack techniques that are likely to be directed against your website, then Signal Sciences are definitely worth a look. Their whole pitch is really about making software that’s easy to deploy. You just drop it on your web server or run it as a WAF proxy, and bang, you’re done. Most of their clients run this software in full blocking mode out of the gate and don’t have any issues. It’s really, really good at blocking stuff like cred stuffing and weird bot activity, as well as your typical OWASPY-style attacks. Signal Sciences Trusted Appsec Advisor Phillip Maddux is our guest today. We spoke about a bunch of stuff really: the future of appsec, how the pivot to serverless is changing things. Then we talk about app-layer deception, and finally Phillip basically takes a dump on the bulk of RASP solutions out there. Enjoy!
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May 15, 2019
Risky Business #541 -- NSO Group makes global headlines. What next?
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam talk through all the week’s security news, including: NSO Group WhatsApp vuln coverage goes nuclear Activists targeted by NSO malware in hiding in west after CIA tipoffs Cisco Trust Anchor drags on sea floor Linux kernel bugs likely overhyped Adobe patches insane number of CVEs Microsoft patches rumoured GCHQ VEP’d RDP bug New hardware bugs affect Intel processors SHA-1 collisions become much more practical Major US anti-virus firms owned hard This week’s sponsor interview with Ryan Kalember of Proofpoint. Ryan is a listener, and when he heard Adam talking about how password rotations actually result in crappy passwords, it hit a nerve with him. He says Proofpoint, via its CASBY product, is seeing a lot of targeted credential stuffing campaigns cycling through variations of passwords that have appeared in dumps. Apparently the bad guys are hip to what a typical password rotation variation looks like and they’re using this knowledge to better direct their cred stuffing attempts. Links to everything are below, and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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May 8, 2019
Risky Business #540 -- In depth: Hamas cyber unit destroyed in air strike
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: IDF takes out Hamas cyber HQ (Features commentary from Bobby Chesney and Klon Kitchen) NYTimes mangles Symantec’s “Buckeye” research Lots of dark web arrests SAP exploits not all they’re cracked up to be Magecart-style attacks spread to other platforms Tech-led crackdown on Chinese-muslims intensifies Japan to create “defensive malware” This week’s sponsor interview is with Duo Security advisory CSO Richard Archdeacon and we’ll be talking about zero trust networks. Richard isn’t so worried about every vendor under the sun claiming to be a zero trust tech company. He doesn’t think that’s going to derail the move to zero trust architectures because the move towards them is too strong. Links to everything are below, and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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May 2, 2019
Snake Oilers 9 part 2: Rapid7 talks SOAR, Trend Micro on its API-based email security play
This isn’t the regular weekly risky biz news and current affairs show, this is the special podcast series we do here at Risky Biz HQ where we take that dirty, dirty vendor cash and let security companies tell the audience all about what they do. Think of it as show and tell for security vendors! In this edition we’ve got three more vendors vying for your hard-earned bread. We’ll be hearing from Rapid7 on their InsightConnect product, that one used to be known as Komand. What can you automate and orchestrate with it? How does it work? Who’s using it? What are they doing with it? Then we’ll be hearing from Trend Micro about their O365 mail security product, and this one is legit interesting for one very simple reason – the deployment method. Most of the mail security firms basically make you route your mail through them. In this case what Trend has done is create a mail security product that just fiddles with your mailboxes through the Microsoft O365 API. They have literally set up a demo account for an enterprise over a beer at a bar. So yeah, I suspect we’ll be seeing more mail security products deploying this way… and because it’s show and tell, Trend will be along to talk about some of the bells and whistles that come with that product. Then finally we’ll be hearing from Cybermerc. This is a group based out of Canberra in Australia. They’ve done a lot of enterprise deception hybrid hardware/consulting, that’s something they’ve gotten very good at. They also do a lot of cyber cyber training, but now they’re trying to market a managed service towards small to medium businesses – those with 50 to a few hundred seats. A managed honeypot, some internal vuln scans, and a partridge in a pear tree!
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May 1, 2019
Risky Business #539 -- Docker Hub owned, Cloudflare, Bloomberg under fire
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: Docker Hub owned That Confluence bug we were talking about a couple of weeks ago got wormified Oracle WebLogic users also having a bad time Cloudflare faces investor pressure over providing services to Nazis Slack warns investors of possible nation-state attacks against it Norsk Hydro puts dollar value on ransomware incident Bloomberg publishes another ridiculous security story Much, much more! This week’s sponsor interview is with Casey Ellis, the CTO and co-founder of Bugcrowd. As most of you are probably aware, Bugcrowd announced its so-called “next generation penetration testing” product last year, a move followed some months later by its competitor HackerOne. With others in the bounty space already offering these types of penetration testing packages, it looks like these efforts are here to stay. But where do crowdsourced penetration tests sit in the wider penetration testing market? Are they coming after the Insomnia and Atredis Partners type firms? The NCCs? The shonky nessus-scan “penetration testers”? Well, not surprisingly Casey argues that this is a new sub-niche in the market and he makes a pretty compelling case to support that argument. Links to everything are below, and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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April 25, 2019
Risky Business #538 -- Marcus Hutchins is a milkshake duck, Iranian APTs doxxed and more
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: Marcus Hutchins faces his milkshake duck moment Iranian APT crew gets Shadowbrokersed DNS interference campaign is actually two large-scale actors UK to use some Huawei components in 5G build French Government launches comms app for politicians, it doesn’t go well More detail on CCleaner/ASUS crew Carbanak source found on VT (lol) Wall Street Market exit scams BEC costing US firms $1.3bn PA Much MOAR! This week’s show is brought to you by Signal Sciences, their CEO Andrew Peterson will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to have a bit of a chat about how a lot of traditional enterprises are running serious business web app shops these days. Links to everything are below, and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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April 23, 2019
Snake Oilers 9 part 1: The best Snake Oilers edition we've ever run
On this edition of Snake Oilers you’ll be hearing from three vendors offering what I believe to be excellent security technology. I haven’t personally used this tech, but conceptually everything featured in this edition is The Good Stuff. You’ll see. Or hear. You know what I mean. First up we’ll be hearing from CMD, they make killer software for Linux that lets you lock down account actions. Not permissions, actions. Do all the default and service accounts you have to run on your Linux fleet terrify you? Well, this is a solution for that. There’s a visibility component there, too. Then we’ll be hearing from AlphaSOC. When we last spoke to them they were just doing domain-based analytics, but they’ve expanded their tech and now offer IP-based and http request-based analytics. You can deploy AlphaSOC as a Splunk app or hook up to their API any other way you want. They’re offering free trials, but even when you’re on the paid service it’s actually pretty affordable. The brain behind AlphaSOC is Chris McNab who used to run incident response at NCC Group. He’s seen how the planes crash into the mountains and he has created a product that performs eminently sensible analysis on your traffic and metadata to alert you to badness. Then finally we’ll be hearing from Nucleus. This is a new company and if your job is managing vulnerabilities and vuln scanners in your org then straight up, just skip to the Nucleus interview immediately. They’ve created a web app that normalises vulnerability scanning information. It’ll take the outputs from Snyk, Rapid7, Checkmarx, Netsparker, OpenVAS, Twistlock, Fortify, Burp Suite, Nessus, Qualys, Acunetix AND others. It ingests all of this data, normalises it, then plumbs these alerts through to the right people through a multitude of different ticketing systems. If your’e stuck in the 7th layer of Sharepoint or Spreadsheet vulnerability management hell, this is a solution to your problems. You will weep salty tears of joy when you hear this one. Free trials of Nucleus are also available. Links to the companies featured are below!
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April 17, 2019
Risky Business #537 -- Assange arrested, WordPress ecosystem on fire
On this week’s show Adam Boileau and Patrick Gray discuss the week’s security news: Julian Assange arrested, likely to be extradited to the USA Krebs: Breach at outsourcing firm Wipro WordPress 0day drama causing serious headaches Silk Road 2’s “DPR2” sent to slammer More from Kaspersky SAS This week’s show is brought to you by Thinkst Canary! Thinkst founder Haroon Meer will be along in this week’s show to talk about the effect venture capital is having on the security ecosystem. He thinks VC money often makes weak ideas look strong, and in a market where it’s quite difficult to make informed purchasing decisions, that’s not a good thing. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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April 10, 2019
Risky Business #536 -- Mar-a-Lago arrest, ASUS supply chain attack and more
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau recap all the infosec news of the last three weeks, including: Chinese woman arrested at Mar-a-Lago being very shady The ASUS supply chain attack Flame-related malware lived on longer than expected boostrap-sass Ruby gem backdoored Latest on Norsk Hydro and other victims of the same crew More trouble at Toyota Huawei spanked by UK oversight panel Exodus govvie malware affects Android and iOS Plus much, much more This week’s sponsor interview is with Kumud Kalia, the Chief Information and Technology Officer of Cylance. They actually dropped a really interesting product announcement at RSA a few weeks back and Kumud will be along later on to tell us about that. The tl;dr it’s an agent that models endpoint behaviour so when someone - or something - else starts using that endpoint to do things that don’t fit the user profile, action can be taken. It’s the type of tech concept that normally belongs in academic papers, not in actual products people can actually buy. That’s an interesting chat. Links to everything are below, and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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April 2, 2019
Risky Biz Soap Box: All about WebAuthn with Duo Security
This is a wholly sponsored podcast brought to you by Duo Security. WebAuthn is a new multifactor authentication standard for the web that is all rooted in very smart encryption tech. Some of you would already be using similar authentication standards in apps without even thinking about it, like doing biometric authentication in your banking apps. You want to log in via your app and it scans your face to auth you, that sort of thing. WebAuthn makes those types of authentication actions available to users through the browser. It’s now an official W3C standard supported by most browsers. It’s the future of auth on the Web. Duo Security has been involved a little bit with the standards process and in this edition of the Soap Box podcast you’re going to hear a nearly hour long conversation between myself, Nick Steele and James Barclay who are Duo’s resident Webauthn dudes at Duo Labs. I hope you enjoy this conversation.
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March 20, 2019
Risky Business #535 -- Stop giving Cloudflare money
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Alex Stamos discuss the week’s news, as well as discussing the rise of white supremacist communities and propaganda on the Internet and what can be done about it. News: Norsk Hydro ransomwared Huawei ban gets more and more political APT40 hitting USA hard Cyber Command’s Euro road-trip Kremlin interference in EU elections extremely likely US Senators seek information on breaches targeting them Cloudflare won’t pull service from 8chan in wake of NZ attack Beto O’Rourke was cDc member New Mirari variant 150 million Android devices hosed by new malware Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Chronicle Security! We’ll be joined by Chronicle co-founders Shapor Naghibzadeh and Mike Wiacek. They had a tremendously successful launch at RSA and they’re going to pop in to tell us about some near future plans they have for their Backstory product. Links to everything are below, and you can follow Patrick or Alex on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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