What drives people to change, to heal, to reinvent themselves? How do we reclaim our health, bounce back from heartbreak, flip the script? On goopfellas, two friends who have become familiar with unlikely personal transformations have raw conversations with people who have experienced profound shifts in perspective and well-being. Together, functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, DC, and chef Seamus Mullen get at the catalysts that bring people out of their dark night and into their purpose. Each of their goopfellas guests—from athletes to actors to authors—is different. As are the hosts: Mullen himself almost died from rheumatoid arthritis, and Cole’s day job is helping people uncover and overturn the roots of dis-ease. But you’ll likely see pieces of yourself in all their conversations, reflected in every one of their challenges. And we hope, from the lessons they learned along the way, you’ll find something you need to bring about a change, big or small, in your own life.
Michael Stipe on the Future of Masculinity and Well-Being
“I set out on this fantastic adventure, and it actually worked out,” former R.E.M. front man Michael Stipe says, a bit surprised himself. In this candid conversation, Stipe talks about who he became after his band got famous, why he decided to speak up about his sexuality, and what it was like to “fall between the lines” and to redefine masculinity. He tells Will and Seamus why he quit drugs and, later, social media, and what it could mean to take an interest in your health. Stipe believes that we’re in a time of great transition, and his own transformation is ongoing, fueled perhaps by one thing in particular: Vulnerability, he says, can contain an immense power. (For more, see the goopfellas podcast hub.)
“We were taught as boys: You can’t cry, don’t show emotion, have no fear,” says Kurt Yaeger. “People think men who are nice and gentle and kind are weak. And you’re like: That’s the antithesis of weakness.” Today, the BMX rider turned actor talks about the very human revelations he had after a harrowing accident. In its aftermath, Yaeger found himself exploring parts of himself that he hadn’t connected to since he was a child. And the story that emerges from this experience suggests that strength and vulnerability are parallel paths made easier when pursued together. (For more, see The goopfellas Podcast hub.)
Kathryn Budig came to Los Angeles because she wanted to be an actor. She eventually left—without an Academy Award—but she found something else. The author, yoga teacher, and foodie talks to the goopfellas about how we earn self-acceptance and happiness. Budig had been convinced that as an adult, you settle for what’s good enough—while at the same time making yourself feel bad for not being perfect, for not having the perfect body or the perfect life. Over time, she realized this perspective wasn’t cutting it. Budig and the guys talk about overthrowing this mind-set and taking steps toward the life you want to live. (For more, see The goopfellas Podcast hub.)
Author, podcaster, and athlete Rich Roll grew up in a loving home. All his needs were met. He was a Division I swimmer at Stanford University and graduated from Cornell Law School. He had a family of his own and became a successful lawyer in Los Angeles. And, he says, he was deeply unhappy and unhealthy. After a WTF moment, Roll decided to make a few changes. He went on a seven-day juice cleanse (because he wanted to do something hard) and tried a plant-based diet (he was surprised by how good he felt). A couple years later, he was competing in the world’s most intense endurance competitions, like the Ultraman. Then came more challenges—to his finances, marriage, and self-esteem. And Roll had to figure out who he wanted to become next. For the first time, he let go out of outer expectations and looked inside himself for answers. What was revealed to him there continues to change the trajectory of his life. (For more, see The goopfellas Podcast hub.)
Melissa Hartwig Urban, the founder of the Whole 30 program, changed her life to get clean. She did not expect that her personal experience with drug addiction would turn into another mission: helping others find a healthy relationship with food. But then it made sense. Drugs and food, Urban believes, are not all that different from a psychological perspective. We crave; we overconsume; we numb; we try to fill voids. This brings isolation, stress, self-hatred. How do we break the cycle? Urban takes us through her process and shows us what food freedom looks like. (For more, see the goopfellas podcast hub.)
“I felt like if I fully embraced taking on life and just exploring it that there were still infinite things for me to do,” says André Kajlich. Three months after being hit by a subway train, Kajlich woke up in a hospital. Both his legs had been amputated. He didn’t think he had the fortitude he needed to live a good life now—which he so wanted. But he made a commitment to himself to find it. To find out what he could do with what he had and who he could become, and to ultimately answer this universal question: What makes a life worthwhile? Today, Kajlich is an endurance athlete and a record-setting wheelchair athlete who has been on some wild rides. But mostly, this has all been an intellectual pursuit for him—a way of figuring out how to get unstuck, quiet the inner critic, call bullshit on yourself, and believe in the possibility of change. (For more, see the goopfellas podcast hub.)
“Someone told me the truth and it got my attention,” says James Beard award-winning chef and food explorer Andrew Zimmern. Today, he’s sitting down with cohosts Seamus Mullen (an old friend) and Will Cole, to talk about addiction, the point at which Zimmermn hit rock bottom, and the profound moment of clarity that changed everything for him. When, for the first time in his entire life, Zimmermn called a friend and asked for help. From there, they talk about confronting the truth and how they’ve struggled, and succeeded, in helping friends to wake up out of their own dark nights. (For more, check out the goopfellas podcast hub.)
For the inaugural goopfellas episode, functional medicine practitioner Will Cole and chef Seamus Mullen sit down with former All-Pro NFL player Keith Mitchell. Mitchell tells them about when his life began: He was lying on his back, in front of 80,000 people in the stands, millions watching on TV. What he didn’t know then? He’d suffered a paralyzing spinal injury. His football career was over. He had a relationship with himself that he’d neglected. He had three houses and cars all over, but he was confined to one interior room; he wasn’t happy. Mitchell did not change all at once. He started experimenting—conscious breathing, yoga, other mindfulness habits—and he built some momentum. “It sounds so simple, but it’s still complex to a lot of us,” he says. “The big picture of transformation can look scary.” Today, all three men talk about the little wins along the way, about why we lead with anger, about moving from force to finesse, about balancing trauma with healing, and about integrating masculinity, vulnerability, and well-being. (For more, see the goopfellas podcast hub and look out for Mitchell’s new book The Mindfulness Playbook.)
goopfellas—the first show to spin-off from The goop Podcast—debuts May 22. It’s hosted by functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, DC, and chef Seamus Mullen: two friends who have become familiar with unlikely personal transformations.