Gwyneth Paltrow and goop's Chief Content Officer Elise Loehnen chat with leading thinkers, culture changers, and industry disruptors—from doctors to creatives, CEOs to spiritual healers—about shifting old paradigms and starting new conversations.
For three decades, Rick Doblin, PhD, has been working in human connection. Doblin is the founder and executive director of the legendary Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). And he’s known for pushing forward critical research to explore the therapeutic potential of psychedelic experiences. But that’s only a piece of it. In this conversation with Elise, Doblin shares his profound perspective on our potential to heal ourselves and on the different pathways that we can open up to process traumas and wrongs done to us—and by us. He explains the significance of changing our relationship to our memories, getting in touch with our unconscious, and learning to forgive ourselves when it’s hardest. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
For Three Women, her first (highly anticipated) book, journalist Lisa Taddeo immersed herself in the lives of three American women, in different parts of the country, for the better part of ten years. The result is an absorbing true story about sex and desire, trauma and longing, power and vulnerability, and the invisible forces that shape our sexuality. In this conversation with Elise from In goop Health Los Angeles, Taddeo takes us behind her extraordinary reporting. But we fell for Taddeo because of what’s ordinary about Three Women, because we saw ourselves in these women, and because we were reminded that of course we’re all normal. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Uma Naidoo is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist and professional chef. And she’s married the two: Naidoo practices nutritional and integrative psychiatry at Massachusetts General Hospital and in her private practice. In other words, she’s curious about which foods impact our mood and how. Today, Elise asks her about the ingredients that can trigger anxiety and panic and how we can better steer clear of them. They talk about the foods that can support our mental health. How we can make (or keep) cooking, eating, and gathering around the kitchen table fun. And how we can help our children develop their own healthy relationship to food. Naidoo’s most important takeaway might be this: Start small. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Psychiatrist Steven Levine was drawn into his profession because he loves the human story. But as a doctor, he found himself dissatisfied with the options being offered to patients struggling with depression and other forms of mental dis-ease. “People aren’t just a big bag of chemicals,” he says. And there could not be a successful one-size-fits-all approach. He spent a long time looking for innovative treatments for his patients. And he found something unlikely: a drug—ketamine—that’s historically been used as an anesthetic and that seemed to have antidepressant effects. Levine, who now runs clinics (called Actify) that offer ketamine infusions (and other support), is quick to point out that ketamine is not a cure. But for a growing number of people it could be a tool that allows them to break through what has previously felt like impenetrable darkness. Beyond ketamine, Levine believes we are on the cusp of more major frontiers that will change the way we think of and address depression. His work and perspective carry much-deserved hope for us all. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Across the board, people tend to be terrible at answering the question “What do I want to do with my life?” Dave Evans, a coauthor of Designing Your Life, is one of the two masterminds behind the popular Stanford program that teaches students how to figure this out. With Bill Burnett, he’s created a playbook that anyone can follow to design a life that’s meaningful to them. Evans reminds us that there isn’t one best version of our life—there are a lot of good versions. He shows us how to prototype and pick from these different realities, and he convinces us not to bother with predictions. He tells us why the current career model is broken, why we sometimes get stuck in jobs we don’t like, and how we can more effectively navigate the hiring process. Get curious, talk to people, try stuff, tell your story, Evans says. And whatever you do: Start where you are. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
An award-winning writer and activist for LGBTQ rights, mental health, and the arts, Andrew Solomon is adept at reframing misconceptions about what it means to be human. In this moving conversation, Solomon and goop chief content officer Elise Loehnen talk about why we crave exceptionalism and cling to sameness. Why we confuse the average with the ideal. Why we waste time hiding our shortcomings and strengthening our strengths. Why we’re threatened by difference. Why we misunderstand the experience of having a disability or being a prodigy. They talk about the difference between love and acceptance, expanding the definition of family,and the ways our lives can be enriched by the diversity of the world. And how we can encourage ourselves and our children to use the challenges we’re faced with to live a remarkable life. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Have you ever wondered what a psychotherapist would think about you? Or what goes on in your therapist’s life outside of office hours? Lori Gottlieb, the author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, is demystifying what she calls the rich human experience between therapist and patient—and she’s seen it from both ends of the couch. In this honest chat, Gottlieb talks with goop’s chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, about the difference between pain and suffering, why we sometimes muck around in our hurt feelings, how to move forward—and the best thing to do when a friend has stalled. Gottlieb’s toolbox isn’t typical: She believes that we should use envy to help us define and go after what we want. And above all, that we should feel our feelings. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
According to Lacy Phillips, a manifestation advisor—she’ll explain what that means—manifesting isn’t about positivity. And you don’t get what you want by visualizing until you’re blue in the face. Your ability to manifest—love, money, career—comes from your self-worth, says Phillips. And to align with what you desire, she believes you need to mine and curate your subconscious. Repair old wounds and patterns. Find the “expanders” who can help you along the way. Phillips thinks of manifestation as a trust muscle—and now you can strengthen yours. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Why are we coming together, what do we care about, and how do we focus the light on that?” Priya Parker, author of The Art of Gathering, asks this before dinner parties, school conferences, office meetings, and weddings. Her day job is working with groups on conflict resolution, but she’s become known for her insight into designing gatherings of all kinds that create meaning, trust, and emotional bonds between people. Being a good host does not mean fancy invitations, the right flatware, or a gift bag. And forget about trying to be a “chill host.” The key to any gathering, Parker says, is building in opportunities for connection. And if we can shift from gatherings focused on things to gatherings focused on people, Parker believes we can transform the way we relate to one another on a much larger scale. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
Unlocking the Energy That Holds Stress and Causes Pain
“We are light beings,” says chiropractor John Amaral. To which body-alignment specialist Lauren Roxburgh adds, “And that light gets compressed when we are stuck.” These two incredibly intuitive and talented healers came together at In goop Health Los Angeles to chat with Elise about: how energy moves through the body, where and why it gets blocked, and how we can release stored stress, pain, and trauma. In the process, Roxburgh explains why the fascia and pelvic floor matter (read her new book, The Power Source,for more). And Amaral outlines the simple (really) ways that we can reconnect to our bodies and feel most alive. (For more, check out The goop Podcast hub.)
In partnership with our friends at Ketel One Botanical There’s a lot we misunderstand about empathy, says Jamil Zaki, a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the author of The War for Kindness. Which is good.In this episode, he’s talking with Elise about empathetic distress—why empathy doesn’t always mean taking on the pain or struggle of someone else, and why being empathic can be a joyous experience. He explains what keeps us from this kind of empathy and connection: often shame. And he teaches us about finding a language for our feelings: “The people who can name their emotions are also most effective at working with them.” His take-home point? Empathy isn’t something we are born with; it’s something we build. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth x Elizabeth Gilbert: Can Creating Something Small Heal Something Big?
Elizabeth Gilbert—beloved author of City of Girls; Eat, Pray, Love;and Big Magic—opened up In goop Health Los Angeles with GP. We cried. We laughed. They talked about creativity, spirituality, grief, and mothering. “I think of creativity as a relationship—not between self and self but between self and mystery,” says Gilbert. For Gilbert, the simplest way for us to connect with a force greater than ourselves is through creativity with a little c. (To be clear: This does not mean you need to be a writer or a self-described creative. There are a lot of ways to create in the world, which they get into.) Gilbert said one profound thing after another, but her perspective on the relationship between creativity and grief will stick with us forever. Creativity, Gilbert teaches, can get us through some hard moments. It can be a path to learning how to love, care, and mother ourselves. And it can help us find those strange jewels that the universe has buried within us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
What drives people to change, to heal, to reinvent themselves? On goopfellas, two friends who have become familiar with unlikely personal transformations have raw conversations with people who have experienced profound shifts in perspective and well-being. Together, functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, DC, and chef Seamus Mullen get at the catalysts that bring people out of their dark night and into their purpose. Each of their goopfellas guests- from athletes to actors to authors- is different. But you'll likely see pieces of yourself in all their conversations, reflected in every one of their challenges. New episodes every Wednesday. Subscribe now and never miss an episode.
“What you appreciate, appreciates,” says Lynne Twist, global activist and author of The Soul of Money. What she means: When we let go of what we don’t really need, we find the freedom to turn our attention toward what we already have. Twist joined our chief content officer Elise Loehnen at our last In goop Health in Los Angeles for a conversation about our money culture—how it was created, why we buy into, the ways its failing to serve us, and how we can change it. Most of us, Twist finds, regardless of how much wealth we’ve amassed, have a strained relationship with money—which, often isn’t really about money. She tells us about the three toxic myths of scarcity and redefines our sense of prosperity and abundance. Having “enough” is not an amount, Twist says, but a state of being. She’s helping us all get there. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth x Eddie Stern: The Punk Rocker Turned Yogi Who Changed Her Life
GP walked into one of Eddie Stern’s Ashtanga yoga classes in the village twenty years ago, and he changed her life forever. Since then, they’ve become good friends (Stern officiated GP’s wedding last year). In this intimate chat, they talk about those early days—when yoga was weird, when celebrities were sweating it out together at his school, when the consciousness in the culture shifted. They talk about Stern’s brilliant new book, One Simple Thing; the science behind yoga and breath; how emotions express themselves through the body; freeing ourselves (from ourselves); and building in a pause when we’re prone to freak out. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and The Breathing App.)
“I was done with being a sick person,” says Seamus Mullen, award-winning New York City chef, cookbook author, avid cyclist—and cohost of our newest podcast, goopfellas. For several years, Mullen was in chronic pain. He was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, the medicine he relied on to suppress his symptoms often made him sick, and he became dependent on opioids. He was, he’ll tell you, chronically angry. After nearly dying in the hospital, Mullen realized he’d been given another chance. With that chance, he decided he needed to change his mind, stop seeing himself as a victim, and find a way to take whatever autonomy possible over his health. He found a functional medicine doctor (Frank Lipman) who became the quarterback in his healing process and bit by bit, Mullen reversed his illness. Today, he’s talking with his friend and our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, about his extraordinary comeback story—which he would say isn’t really remarkable at all. “My journey is the same journey as millions of other people have been on—and can be on.” (For more, see The goop Podcast and goopfellas hubs.)
“Before I can change your mind, I need to understand where your mind is,” says pro negotiator Daniel Shapiro. The founder and director of the Harvard International Negotiation Program, Shapiro has advised all sorts of people and organizations through conflict: families, CEOS, heads of state, Fortune 500 companies. He’s found that every conflict has a few things in common: Two sides typically get into conflict when they don’t feel appreciated by the other. And the way out of conflict is a dance that moves you toward a deeper understanding of the other side, which, Shapiro explains, “can really unlock emotional deadbolts in a relationship.” In this episode, Shapiro takes our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, through one of her own wife-husband conflicts. They talk about accommodators versus confronters, what healthy confrontation looks like, how to deal (or not) with someone who is completely mired in conflict, how to set boundaries, and why the trivial is not trivial. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“The way people think will affect their health in a big way,” says Apostolos Lekkos, DO. As a physician, Lekkos splits his time between emergency medicine and a private practice in Santa Monica, California, where his patients think of him as a secret weapon (sorry for sharing!). Western medicine really works in the emergency room, Lekkos says. But when it comes to preventive care, chronic conditions, and optimizing health, he believes the system is broken. In this chat with Elise Loehnen (a patient and friend), Lekkos breaks down his functional approach to well-being. They talk about genetic testing and regulating genes that influence cholesterol, mood, and disease. They talk about nutrition testing and supplements. They talk about leaky gut, autoimmunity, what to eat—and how to take power over your own health wherever you are on the spectrum. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Two decades ago, GP read Anatomy of the Spirit for the first time. It’s a book she’s returned to again and again over the years. And now she’s met its incredibly wise author: Caroline Myss joined GP on stage at In goop Health for a conversation on the mind-body-spirit connection. There, GP asked Myss about being a medical intuitive (Myss says we’re all born medically intuitive), the difference between intuition and hypochondria, how the chakras correspond to health and dis-ease, and how we can speak the truth—to ourselves. When we don’t, Myss says, we end up creating false narratives: “Then you’re going to live a lie. It takes a lot of effort to live a lie.” And at the very end of their chat: Myss tells GP the one thing that she believes is the most powerful tool we have for healing. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Part of the reason why humans suffer is that we don’t honor the expression of these so-called weak emotions—meaning sadness, fear, and shame,” says psychiatrist Will Siu. In this moving conversation with new friend and goop chief content officer Elise Loehnen, Siu takes us through his experiences with loneliness and depression—both personally and as a clinician. Siu is educated by way of UC Irvine, UCLA medical school, the NIH, Harvard, and Massachusetts General Hospital and McLean Hospital. In other words: He’s a person that society deemed successful—and yet as he vulnerably explains, he still struggled. Today, Siu shares paths toward healing and connection, including what he’s learned from psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy, or as he puts it, psychedelic-assisted humanity. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Kim John Payne’s work focuses on the feeling of overwhelm that a lot of us walk around with today. As an educator, school consultant, and family counselor, Payne helps people simplify their lives (which he writes about in Simplicity Parenting: Using the Extraordinary Power of Less to Raise Calmer, Happier, and More Secure Kids). People often misunderstand what it means to have a balanced life, says Payne. They’ll tell him that they’d like more time to be creative and to connect with others, and that they’d love to stop overscheduling their kids—but that’s not the world we live in and thus it’s unrealistic and unproductive. In Payne’s mind, this is a major misjudgment. We prepare our kids and ourselves for a world that is far more structured than it is today and than it will be tomorrow. In this chat, Payne makes a case against child-centered homes and shows us how to create the value-centered homes that he believes could change the culture for all of us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“We've turned ourselves just into these consumers,” says David de Rothschild. “We've lost sight of the fact that we're citizens.” De Rothschild, who calls himself an “optimistic pessimist” is a world adventurer and environmental activist. He once set sail across the Pacific, from San Francisco to Sydney, riding on a 60-foot catamaran built from thousands of reclaimed plastic bottles. You might think he’d tell us to give up all our material desires and wants—but he has them, too. And his most profound advice starts here: Be willing to unlearn, to move from fear to curiosity, to remember the magic of nature. It’s possible, he believes, to engineer ourselves out of our mess, to reimagine profit, to reframe companies as communities, and to reclaim our role as citizens of the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth, Demi Moore, and Arianna Huffington: On Redefining Success with Age
P brought a couple friends—Demi Moore and Arianna Huffington—together for a chat at In goop Health in New York City. They talked a little bit about wellness routines and parenting advice. And a lot about how they’ve defined and redefined success throughout their lives and careers, which has sometimes required them to ditch society’s measuring stick. “I'm now convinced that failure is such an incredible way to build our resilience and to build our own inner strength,” said Huffington. “We won't be the same people without the failures along the way.” For Moore, the most important thing she thinks she’ll ever do in her life is the inner work. What does that look like? All three women weigh in. (See The goop Podcast hub for more.)
“I was craving the straight and narrow path that I had arbitrarily created for myself without really any experience to base it upon,” Valerie Jarrett says. “It’s just what I thought should make me happy.” And then Jarrett hit a wall. In this intimate chat with our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, Jarrett shares the path she took from a law firm in Chicago to become Barack Obama’s senior advisor in the White House and family confidante. She talks about being a single mom and how she learned to admit when life was hard, ask for help, and stop trying to be so perfect. Her stories show a different, more adventurous, and hopeful way to build a life of purpose—however you define purpose in your own life. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and Jarrett’s new book, Finding My Voice.)
“Wellness is not a state of mind,” Emily Nagoski says. “It is not coming to a place of loving yourself. Wellness is a state of action. It is the freedom to move through the natural cycles of the stress response.” Nagoski—author of Come As You Are—began her work as a sex educator and went on to earn an MS in counseling and a PhD in health behavior. Her new book, Burnout, explains why women experience burnout differently than men—and how we can all avoid it. This is one of those rare conversations about stress that didn’t make us…stressed. It did make us laugh. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth x Brené Brown: On the Roots of Shame, Courage, and Vulnerability
“I call shame the twenty-ton shield,” says Brené Brown. “It's a defense mechanism—very classic—that we carry in order to protect ourselves from getting hurt. But what it actually does is protect us from being seen.” Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston, a New York Times–bestselling author (read her latest, Dare to Lead), and the star of a new Netflix special, The Call to Courage. In this chat, she and GP talk about courage, which Brown says is teachable and possible to cultivate only from a place of vulnerability. They talk about being perfectionists: “Where perfectionism is driving, your shame is riding shotgun,” says Brown. And they talk about empathy—as a tool for combating shame internally and for stepping beyond yourself to connect with and lead others. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Laura Day and Laura Lynne Jackson are renowned psychic mediums and friends. They both joined our chief content officer Elise Loehnen (another friend) at our last In goop Health summit. “Everybody thinks they need to come to someone like me or Laura to get their information,” said Jackson. “And the truth is you don't.” Day and Jackson work differently, but this is where they agree: Everybody has intuitive abilities, which routinely get dismissed. In this chat, they explain how to notice, listen to, test, and document your intuition so that you can use it as a tool to help you with your relationships, career, and daily routine. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
The spiritual legend best known as Swamiji went to New Jersey—and so did our chief content officer Elise Loehnen. Swamiji created and runs the Vedanta Institute in Mumbai. Vedanta is the study of Vedic tests and translates to “the end of knowledge.” At the institute, and now throughout the world, his scholars explore why so many of us are so unhappy. In the world of Vedanta, they believe that there is a distinction between the mind and the intellect—and that the intellect should not be confused with intelligence. Because we do not exercise our intellects to control our minds, we are run by our likes and dislikes. We are controlled by our attachments and our emotions, the theory goes. How do we break free? Swamiji tells Elise—after taking her to the mat a couple of times. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“To be a helpable person seems counterintuitive,” says Bonnie St. John. “I’m the one-legged black woman. You know, I spent my whole life proving that I could do it all myself.” St. John is the first African American to ever win medals in winter Olympic competition, taking home a silver and two bronzes at the 1984 Paralympics. She graduated magna cum laude from Harvard. Earned a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford. Served in the White House as a director of the National Economic Council during the Clinton administration. “I was such a drive-yourself-until-you-drop person,” she says. Until she learned a different paradigm for high performance—one that was sustainable, with recoveries built in along the way. It’s not about pulling the throttle back, says St. John; when you follow her method, you’re able to do more. She calls it micro-resilience: “little hacks that have a big impact.” And in this episode, we get her favorite strategies and tools for changing pessimistic viewpoints, prioritizing, making decisions, working with others, and just getting it done. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub and St. John’s book Micro-Resilience: Minor Shifts for Major Boosts in Focus, Drive, and Energy.)
“We’ve wiped out 40 percent of biology on earth in just fifty years,” says Zach Bush, MD. “And yet that Mother Earth keeps reaching out saying: Are you sure you don't want to keep playing? Because we could have some fun together.” For Bush, the health of our soil microbiome is the single most potent factor determining how healthy—or unhealthy—we are. What makes Bush’s case particularly compelling is the unlikely path he took to realizing it: Bush is a board-certified physician with a background in internal medicine, endocrinology and metabolism, and hospice and palliative care. He thought he’d spend his whole life in academia, until a curveball took him to a nutrition center in rural Virginia. There, everything Bush “knew” about nutrition and the drivers of disease and medicine...broke. Slowly, he began to put together the pieces, which told a new story that felt both surprising and intuitive to him. Today, Bush shares that story, along with the steps we can take to move from chemical farming toward regenerative agriculture, and from a culture of dis-ease toward one of healing.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“You’ve got to meet people where they are,” says Sally Kohn. “But then you don’t have to leave them there.” Kohn, a TV commentator and columnist, appeared on Fox News representing a liberal point of view for many years—that experience alone taught her a lot about listening, bridging, and ultimately persuading. Before that, Kohn worked for more than fifteen years as a community organizer. And today she’s talking to Elise Loehnen about her incredibly helpful, surprisingly funny book The Opposite of Hate: A Field Guide to Repairing Our Humanity. It’s a conversation that taught us about listening to understand—not to argue—and about getting comfortable with discomfort. It also reminded us that we’re all way more similar than we tend to think we are. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth x Lupita Nyong’o: On Giving Yourself Permission to Learn
GP hung out at Universal Studios with Oscar-winning actor Lupita Nyong’o as she prepped for the release of her new film Us (written and directed by the talented Jordan Peele). They talked about Nyong’o’s path to the platform she has today: growing up in Mexico and Kenya, her politician-professor father who was in self-exile, Nyong’o’s education (and why getting an Ivy League degree was important to her), landing her role in 12 Years a Slave, the cultural significance of Black Panther. They talked about shame—in the context of women’s sexuality and also the shame of not understanding something. “Ignorance doesn't have to be permanent. It can be momentary,” says Nyong’o. “You have to allow yourself to learn. And it starts with admitting what you don’t know.” Other highlights: the pair’s perspective on how beauty is being redefined in the culture, Nyong’o’s description of the most “dangerous” (in a good way) actor she’s ever worked with, and some critical tips on getting through a scary movie. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Nothing itself is addictive on the one hand,” says Gabor Maté, MD. “And on the other hand, everything could be addictive if there’s an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled.” Maté is known for his unique perspective on addiction, child development and trauma, and how this stress manifests in the body. He has written several books, including In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts, Hold On to Your Kids, and Scattered. In this moving conversation with Elise Loehnen, Maté talks about how early childhood experiences sometimes show up later in life and how we’re all affected by our social, cultural, economic, and relational environments. He also shares from his incredible personal experiences in family and palliative care and ministering to patients in the most drug-addicted district in North America. And he talks about the beauty of medicine—which, he explains, is not about control. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Nobody changes until they change their energy—and when you change your energy, you change your life,” says researcher and author Joe Dispenza, DC. Dispenza’s work explores neuroscience, epigenetics, quantum physics, and consciousness. He’s become known for helping people heal in miraculous ways. (His latest book is called Becoming Supernatural: How Common People Are Doing the Uncommon.) In this episode, he explains what at first appears to be magic, where science and mysticism intersect. It’s possible, Dispenza believes, to change the way you think, the way you act, the way you feel; to change your mind and body. The hardest part: not making the same choices you did the day before, choosing not to live by the emotions that keep you anchored to the past. “People wait their whole lives for something outside of them to change how they feel inside,” Dispenza says. But priming your brain to be a map to a new future—that’s an energetic job in his book. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth x Dax Shepard: On Triggers and Self-Esteem
GP caught up with Dax Shepard at his studio and they covered a lot of ground: They talked about the roots of shame and fear, the things that they find triggering, and trying to figure out how to be intentional. They talked about what erodes self-esteem, what is erroneous to self-esteem, and what builds it. They swapped stories: relationship challenges, second chances at intimacy, navigating parenthood and fame. And they kept coming back to vulnerability—how to approach it, how to get comfortable with it, and what they’ve learned in the process. (P.S. On this episode, you’ll also hear a bit from Shepard’s right hand, Monica Padman. And as always, you can see more on The goop Podcast hub.)
Boston-based clinical psychologist Ellen Hendriksen has become known for helping people through anxiety, which is something she has struggled with, too. Hendriksen wrote a book about it called How to Be Yourself: Quiet Your Inner Critic and Rise Above Social Anxiety. Our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, asked Hendriksen to share the strategies she’s learned and tested to cope with social anxiety and move from fear and doubt toward authenticity and a genuine comfort with the person you are in the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Dads saved the human race,” says Anna Machin, evolutionary anthropologist and author of The Life of Dad. In this conversation with goop CCO Elise Loehnen, Machin calls us to reimagine the role of the modern father, think differently about sex and gender as they relate to parenthood, and explore what it means to be a family, to be social, to form long-lasting relationships. Machin’s research on the anthropological roots of fatherhood and how fathers evolved to be parent figures has an equally extraordinary impact on men, women, and children—and the potential to change what our communities look like well into the future. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I never thought you had to be any one way to be a person and to be kind and to learn,” says Erin Brockovich, who continues to redefine what it means to be an activist. The tough news, Brockovich tells us, is that Superman is not coming to save the environment, to clean up our water, to kick harmful chemicals out of our neighborhoods. But here’s why Brockovich is optimistic: We’ve had the power all along to rescue ourselves. We do not need to wait for oversight that does not exist. We simply have to believe that we can, that we should, that we have every right to speak up and speak out. And then we can start small, we can start local, and we can make the kind of big, life-altering changes that Brockovich has helped inspire all over the world. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I've been kind of a student of family secrets all my life,” writer Dani Shapiro says. All of her novels have centered around family secrets, and her memoirs have explored secrets in her own family history, some of which she didn’t know existed—until she took a DNA test on a whim. When the results came back, Shapiro learned this: Her father, her beloved father whose deep Jewish lineage Shapiro had always identified with, was not her biological father. Did this mean she was not the person she thought she was? Did it change everything? Did it change nothing? What did her parents (who have both passed) know? Following the publication of her new memoir Inheritance, Shapiro talks with our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, about searching for answers, exploring what defines us, and ultimately “being willing to embrace and live with a certain amount of uncertainty—just simply not knowing.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“People get used to sometimes feeling a certain way, and they don't know that they could feel better,” says naturopathic doctor and aesthetician Nigma Talib. “I think when people get the taste of what it’s like to feel optimal, they quite often stick to it.” Working with Talib is fascinating because she can connect how you’re feeling to what’s happening in your gut to the way your skin looks. And then she helps you fix it all. She wrote about this process in a book called Younger Skin Starts in the Gut. And as the title suggests, Talib is also known for her approach to aging gracefully—and not prematurely. "Aging is beautiful," she says. "There's something about having those gorgeous expression lines." (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth x Elena Brower: On Divorce and Self-Forgiveness
GP catches up with her old friend Elena Brower, yoga teacher and coauthor of Better Apart: The Radically Positive Way to Separate. They talk about their own divorces, relationship endings and beginnings, and transformations. Brower doesn’t believe it’s ever too late to “fix it.” She pushes for taking responsibility for your attitude and reality, vigilantly taking care of yourself during and after the separation, having patience for the process, and having a lot of self-forgiveness. And GP explains why she always says intimate relationships are a meditation on everything that’s wrong with us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“For better or worse, I’m the asshole guy,” Robert Sutton once told us. Sutton is a professor at Stanford and the author of The Asshole Survival Guide. Of course, his work encompasses a lot more. Sutton studies organizational change, leadership, innovation, workplace dynamics, friction. Today, we’re talking a lot about assholes though: What makes someone act like one? How can we identify the tendencies in others and ourselves? How do you get rid of assholes in your office and personal life? And when you can’t, what are the best coping strategies for dealing with one? (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“Our memory is shit,” says couples therapist and author of We Do Stan Tatkin. “It can’t be relied on, and our perception is like a fun-house mirror…. And so that should give way to more cautiousness, more consideration, and more curiosity than we tend to have, especially in love relationships.” Tatkin’s approach to helping couples develop “secure-functioning relationships” is both realistic and optimistic. His work helps people better understand their partners so that they can become the best possible team together. Tatkin is a proponent of dependency in a relationship—and of not making that a dirty word anymore. His perspective on parenting—and not putting a child at the center of your universe—is also compelling. As for deal breakers in a relationship: Yes, he says, they exist, although sometimes what might appear to be a deal breaker is actually wholly resolvable. And if you’re looking for a relationship, Tatkin says forget thinking about the perfect person, and consider your perfect relationship. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I didn't think that anybody thought or felt or experienced the world the way that I did until I came into recovery,” Bill Clegg tells our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen. Clegg is the author of two harrowing, poignant memoirs: Portrait of an Addict as a Young Man and Ninety Days. (He’s also a novelist—read Did You Ever Have a Family—and one of the most respected literary agents in publishing.) Clegg doesn’t often talk about his experience with addiction and recovery these days, which makes today’s conversation feel all the more intimate. Whether or not you recognize some piece of his story as your own or as belonging to someone you love, it’s a conversation that will stick with you. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“When we promote, if you will, acting compassionately, there’s a subset of people who look at this as a soft science,” says neurosurgeon James Doty, MD. But his research and that of others has demonstrated on a scientific level “that when you practice compassion with intention, it has a profound effect on your mental and physical health and wellness and even your longevity.” Today, Doty shares his unlikely personal story with us; we’ll call it miraculous, but he’s an atheist (who is best friends with the world’s great spiritual leaders). Doty, who had a challenging childhood, learned a few lessons—in a magic shop—at the age of twelve that changed his life forever. One was how to manifest, which set him on a course to becoming a successful neurosurgeon, Stanford professor, and wealthy entrepreneur. But it wasn’t until he went bankrupt and lost it all that he felt like he had gained everything. He wrote a book about it—Into the Magic Shop—and now runs the Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education at Stanford. His work helps us understand the soul of human relationships, their effect on the brain, and the immense power that each of us has to shape how we see the world and how it reacts to us. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
“I think we build up this thesis of who we are, and then it gets shook.” This is how Abbi Jacobson—one of the creators, executive producers, and stars of Broad City—begins to describe the ups and downs of her love life. And the road trip she departed on with a broken heart. It was this adventure that eventually became her poignant collection of personal essays, I Might Regret This. And it was on a different cross-country trek that she caught up with our chief content officer, Elise Loehnen, to talk about humor, aura readings, being a workaholic, how it’s hard to ask for help, and why we need to know it’s okay to rely on other people. Jacobson made us laugh—a lot. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth x Howard Schultz: On the Entrepreneur’s Dream
Howard Schultz, the author of the new book From the Ground Up, tells stories about his time as the Starbucks CEO and how it almost slipped away from him early on and about a moment that gave him a sense of spirituality.
Steven Pinker, the experimental psychologist, Harvard psychology professor, and bestselling author of Enlightenment Now explains our tendency to look at the past through rose-colored glasses and view the present world much more pessimistically and why that thinking doesn't reflect reality.
Longevity researcher Valter Longo breaks down the phenomenon of intermittent fasting and shares the forthcoming science that he’s most excited about—the lifestyle interventions that could have massive impacts on how long we live and how healthy we are.
Ballet star and history-maker Misty Copeland sits down with GP to talk about what it’s like being the first African American woman to ever be promoted to principal dancer at the American Ballet Theatre.
Gabrielle Reece is a world-class athlete, model, and the New York Times–bestselling author of My Foot Is Too Big for the Glass Slipper. A former professional beach volleyball player, Reece was Nike’s first female spokesperson. She’s known, in part, for her thoughtful perspective on strength, beauty, and redefining our relationship to our body. In this special episode, we’re sharing a conversation with Reece from In goop Health Vancouver. We talked about navigating self-judgment, doing away with comparisons, why perfectly beautiful isn’t the path to happiness, and ways to get stronger with age. For starters, we’ll never look at a scale the same way again. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Greg McKeown is the New York Times–bestselling author of Essentialism, and he believes that we’ve been sold a bill of goods. The notion that we can (or should) do it all, that we can (or should) have it all, that this is what success is made of—it’s all a great con, says McKeown. But McKeown is not an advocate for saying no. What he does is help people identify the things that really matter to them and figure out how to make the space and time to pursue just those things. Maybe the biggest lesson he’s taught us is this: If you don’t prioritize your life, someone else will. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Dr. Maya Shetreat is a New York City–based neurologist and the author of The Dirt Cure. In her practice, she sees children and adults with chronic health issues, gut imbalances, and autoimmune disorders. She believes that the best approach is one that incorporates the physical, emotional, and spiritual. She is an advocate for reconnecting with the earth, trusting the gut, and exploring the idea that science is really a system and language for explaining magic. Listening to Shetreat will make you want to talk about miracles, mysteries, and the power of acknowledging that we will never know everything. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth x Chrissy: On Food, Marriage, and Social Media
Chrissy Teigen is one of the funniest people we know, arguably has the best clapbacks of all time, and knows how to cook the kind of meal everyone craves. This week, GP went over to Chrissy’s, and they talked about their shared love of food and how important it is to feel good about what you’re eating, without being too dogmatic about it. They chatted about marriage, and Chrissy told GP what she really loves about being with John Legend (which isn’t what everyone thinks). Of course, they talked through social media and what makes Chrissy who she is online. We felt like (wished) we were there drinking a glass of wine with them. (For more and to get Chrissy’s new cookbook, Cravings, head to The goop Podcast hub.)
Gwyneth on Perfectionism, Criticism, and Curiosity
On the tenth anniversary of goop—which GP started from her kitchen in London—we’re turning the tables. In this special episode, GP herself is answering the questions, in an honest conversation with her friend and podcast cohost, goop’s chief content officer Elise Loehnen. Looking back, GP talks about mistakes she made in building a company, her inherent fear of intimacy, and how hard conscious uncoupling really is. She talks about getting comfortable with criticism, stepping away from perfectionism, and being curious about the different ways we can optimize our lives. Elise asks GP about getting married, parenthood, and “Faltrow-Martin” house rules. And GP shares her business philosophy, why she created a specific kind of culture at goop, and what it means to return home with a pop-up in Notting Hill. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Bryan Stevenson, the New York Times–bestselling author of Just Mercy, has been called America’s Nelson Mandela by Desmond Tutu and Nicholas Kristof. As a civil rights lawyer, he’s liberated more than 100 people from death row, proving their innocence in the process. And as the founder of the Equal Justice Initiative, he recently opened the Legacy Museum and the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, Alabama, which commemorate lynching, slavery, terrorism against African Americans, Jim Crow, and mass incarceration in this country. They are stunning tributes that compel us to never repeat the worst of our past. Because of our history, Stevenson argues that no one in this country is really free, but he paints a path to a more just society in which we can all confront and overcome racial inequality. It’s a future that Stevenson feels really hopeful about, but not one that will materialize unless we act now.
Literary agent Jennifer Rudolph Walsh runs the New York office of the mega entertainment and media company WME. And as its worldwide head of literary, lectures, and conference divisions, Walsh has a client list that reads like a who’s who of thought leadership: Oprah, Brené Brown, Alice Munro, etc. We got Walsh to pull back the curtain and tell us how she continues to find the next leading thinkers, all while taking no bullshit in an industry previously dominated by men. Through her brainchild, Together Live, a nationwide storytelling event, she reminds us of the power of storytelling to connect us all and the importance of finding voices that are typically underheard and underrepresented. She also explains why being a thought follower is a highly underrated cause. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
In this must-listen—whether or not you have or even want kids—Joe Newman, the author of Raising Lions, explains his simple, systems-based approach to conflict that could have a profound effect on our entire culture. And it starts with so-called problem children. Newman knows them well: He used to be one, a typical ADHD, disobedient type. Today, he’s able to connect with kids no one else seems able to reach, and he teaches his life-changing method to parents, family members, and educators. Newman’s perspective—on why things go off track, why so many of us were misjudged as kids, and why we continue to misunderstand kids today—challenges our preconceived notions of what it means to grow up. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.)
Sex therapist Stephen Snyder, M.D., is interested in the feelings behind sex, the feelings we get in thick of it, and the ones that sometimes keep us from connection and intimacy. Snyder is an associate clinical professor of psychiatry at the Icahn School of Medicine and has been in private practice in Manhattan for two decades. He’s come to believe that passion is inherently selfish, that sex should make you feel a little dumb, and that everyone thinks everyone else is having more (and better) sex than they are. Above all, he reminds us that we’re normal. For more, go to goop.com/thepodcast.
Will Cole, IFMCP, DC, takes an unorthodox approach to medicine, working closely with patients around the world and their primary care physicians or teams of specialists. As a functional medicine practitioner, Dr. Cole looks to optimize lab work beyond the range conventionally deemed “normal,” in large part to keep people off of an autoimmune spectrum he sees again and again. Cole’s approach to health is individual, but he explains why he’s a big fan of intermittent fasting, and why—good news—you can drink coffee during it. He also shares his food philosophy and the Ketotarian diet he created: a mashup of the best of the plant-based and ketogenic worlds. For more, go to goop.com/thepodcast.
Peter Crone refers to himself as a “mind architect”: He helps people understand how their own perceptions, self-limiting beliefs, and words have shaped their reality—and he points out how to break free. As one friend of goop explained, a session with Crone is like being gently held while he simultaneously punches you in the gut. It is not always easy, but it is certainly cathartic. (For more, head to goop.com/thepodcast.)
Dr. Josh Axe is a functional medicine practitioner who draws heavily from Ayurveda and Traditional Chinese medicine. He talks to us about making health changes more accessible to men, specifically, as well as the herbs, spices, and essential oils that he thinks we should all be leaning on. He also tackles common health concerns, like Hashimoto's, and breaks down why he thinks a ketogenic cleanse can be so effective for weight loss. His take on protein and the health benefits of collagen might change what you put on your dinner plate, too.
Dr. Lucy Kalanithi brought us to tears in this poignant, moving, and ultimately uplifting conversation about love, grief, family, and the ties that bind us long after death. Kalanithi is a clinical assistant professor of medicine at Stanford and a general practitioner interested in end-of-life care. She’s the widow of Dr. Paul Kalanithi, the author of the number one New York Times–bestselling memoir When Breath Becomes Air. Their journey together has changed the way so many of us think about faith, loss, and what it means to really live. (For more, head to goop.com/thepodcast.)
Gwyneth x Sarah Jessica: On Heartbreak, Business, Books, and Reality TV
Sarah Jessica Parker came over to GP’s Hamptons home to catch up on everything you’d hope they would: Carrie Bradshaw, motherhood, shoes, why they started businesses, SJP’s book short list, how things have changed (and not changed) for women in Hollywood, and Cynthia Nixon’s campaign for governor of New York. Then there’s the unexpected—like GP’s reality TV show pick and SJP’s insightful take on heartbreak. (If you’re looking for the novel SJP raves about—we’ve got A Place for Us stocked in the goop shop.)
Spiritual legend Marianne Williamson takes us on as only she could in this inspiring wake-up call. Williamson argues for compassionate resistance, real maturity, and a greater understanding of the dichotomy that is built into the DNA of America. Her insight into crisis—and the people she sees us becoming on the other side of it—lights a fire.
Dr. Mark Hyman is a pioneer of a new way of thinking about both health and chronic disease. He’s the director of the Cleveland Clinic for Functional Medicine, the founder of the Ultra Wellness Center, and a New York Times–bestselling author of books like Food: What the Heck Should I Eat? And now he answers that question for us, dispelling a host of dietary misconceptions and controversies. Using science and research, Hyman contextualizes the incredible results his patients have seen after adopting his food-first philosophy—which is poised to change the future of modern medicine.
During this one-on-one chat with GP’s trusted intimacy teacher Michaela Boehm, we learn how to bring the practice of Tantra to life and turn up what Michaela calls “Erotic Friction.” GP and Michaela dispel misconceptions around Tantra and gender, and talk about redefining feminism and polarity in modern relationships. And Michaela offers some unexpected tips and simple, tangible steps that anyone can follow to increase desire in a relationship.
Gwyneth x Janet Mock: The Journey to Self-Acceptance
Drop into this conversation between new friends GP and the brilliant Janet Mock—who is currently a writer, producer, and director on the FX show Pose (along with GP’s fiancé Brad Falchuk). GP and Janet talk about what it’s like to be on the frontlines of a shifting culture and the moment that Janet realized she had to stop waiting for her role model and become the person she had been waiting for. They talk about giving up “dream jobs” for new dreams. Janet schools GP—in the best way—on transgender issues that are really all of our issues. And GP asks Janet’s advice for parents whose children are struggling to be seen by society for who they are.
Laura Lynne Jackson is one of the most incredible psychic mediums of our time. She’s also the New York Times-bestselling author of the thoroughly enjoyable, uplifting read The Light Between Us. Today, she shares some of her profound intuitions with us—like why she believes we all have psychic abilities, how we can change the trajectory of grief, where we can find an endless source of love and connection, and what she thinks we’re meant to learn here on earth.
Are You Still Recovering from Pregnancy Years Later?
When Dr. Oscar Serrallach first wrote about postnatal depletion on goop, he hit a nerve—particularly with the revelation that some women experience the aftereffects of having a child for several years. In his Australia-based practice, Dr. Serrallach has focused on helping moms new and years out to restore their health and vitality. And in this episode, he’s sharing his simple strategies, nutrition tips, and a hormone primer so that more of us can finally feel like ourselves again. (For more, see Dr. Serrallach’s new book The Postnatal Depletion Cure and visit goop.com/thepodcast.)
Multi-hyphenate Olivia Wilde is a producer, actor, director, and activist, who believes we need to empower more women to tell their stories—and take a closer look at the stories that we’ve all told ourselves. In this episode, she tells us a few of her own that have changed her perspective. She talks about what it was like being raised by two working parents who were both war-time journalists (one is running for office now). And she talks about the process of changing peoples’ minds. She also makes us laugh—a lot.
Psychotherapist Barry Michels—bestselling coauthor of The Tools—doesn’t believe that uncovering the roots of problems sets people free. Instead, he’s designed quick, accessible tools for getting unstuck and moving through fear, which he coaches some of the most prolific, creative, and established people in the world to use. Part of this work is learning how to find the opportunity in a problem, and part is making peace with the aspects of yourself you’ve always put down, repressed, ignored.
A cardiologist by training, Dr. Alejandro Junger is a trailblazer in functional medicine and the founder of the Clean program. He’s also goop’s OG expert M.D. and our constant guide through new paths of healing. One of the most powerful tools he uses to restore health is detoxification. Detox has become a hotly debated topic, but Junger says it’s not a modern concept, nor a fad, nor a method of deprivation. It’s a way, he believes, of removing blocks and filling in gaps so the body can recover its innate ability to heal itself.
Functional medicine doctor Taz Bhatia, M.D., says that stress overload manifests in different ways in her patients. For some, stress contributes to weight gain or weight loss resistance; for others, stress may be a factor in thyroid disorders, anxiety, PCOS, or gut issues. Here’s what Dr. Bhatia does not tell her patients: to slow down, to calm down, to give something up—things she has no interest in being told or doing herself. Instead, she has drawn from conventional medicine, Ayurveda, traditional Chinese medicine, research, and her own health struggles to come up with a toolbox that women can use to optimize their health one simple, concrete step at a time.
In 2008, after falling into a deep coma, academic neurosurgeon Eben Alexander had a near-death experience that defied his understanding of how the brain works. For him, it was proof of heaven, which became the name of his New York Times–bestselling memoir. Since then, he’s been exploring the science of consciousness, connection, and spirituality with Karen Newell, an innovator in sound meditation. Together, they share how they’ve learned to tap into a higher consciousness, the existing evidence of a spiritual universe, and why they think we’re on the verge of the greatest shift in human thought.
When Audrey Gelman opened the women-only co-working and community space the Wing in the fall of 2016, she had no way of knowing that it would quickly become swept up in a larger movement around women’s rights. As the Wing expands around the US and the world, we asked Gelman about navigating this highly charged cultural moment and the push-back that women often get when they go after what they want.
No one emerges from childhood unscathed, says psychiatrist and author of Permission to Parent Robin Berman. Her great talent lies in helping people come to terms with their imperfect past and move beyond any self-limiting beliefs, attachment issues, or disappointments they collected along the way. Whether you had a narcissist for a role model, you didn’t get everything you needed as a kid, or you’ve never been able to forgive your dad’s one mistake, her insight makes it possible to re-parent yourself and finally say goodbye to the baggage that isn’t you.
Sought-after sexuality expert and psychotherapist Esther Perel peels away the layers of desire to reveal some surprising truths about what actually turns women and men on. For one: The secret to female sexuality, Perel says, is how narcissistic it is. She also has some revelatory ideas about why desire dries up in long-term relationships and how to reinvent your intimate life, and she even makes a compelling case for reconsidering the way we think about jealousy as well as infidelity.
In this personal and candid conversation, GP and her mom, Blythe Danner, talk about what it was like living and then acting together, why Blythe was hard on her daughter, and things they would have done—or said—differently. They talk about old boyfriends, Tinder, and vibrators. They talk about the strange thing that happens when you win a major award (an Oscar for GP, a Tony for Blythe) at twenty-six. They talk about co-parenting and forgiveness. They talk about what’s left to accomplish—and the beauty of letting go.
Family therapist and teacher Terry Real has steered many troubled couples away from the brink of divorce, coaching them through struggles with intimacy, honesty, and transparency. In his unconventional approach, he actually gets off the therapist bench and gets involved, lending his own experience to the conversation. He is full of tips for promoting passion in long-term relationships—something he says we aren’t taught how to do.
Dr. Steven Gundry’s career in cardiac surgery took a surprising turn when he met a seemingly hopeless patient who reversed heart damage with food and supplements. Curious, Gundry went on to explore the power of nutrition and search for cures for notoriously difficult-to-treat conditions. He’s become known for cutting lectins (plant proteins) out of his patients’ diets and for his books The Plant Paradox and The Plant Paradox Cookbook. His take on why too many women have been dismissed in the doctor’s office is also compelling. End-of-episode bonus: GP does a round of AMA on being blonde.
Anita Moorjani, the author of Dying to Be Me and What If This Is Heaven?, takes us on a crazy ride through her near-death experience and spontaneous healing from cancer. Apart from that wild story, what’s most striking is how she learned to take autonomy over her health without shouldering self-blame or guilt. For Moorjani, the secret to striking this balance lay not in doing more—but in discovering how to be who she already was. In turn, GP answers a question on her own spirituality.
The Unexpected Sparks of Creativity, Confrontation & Office Culture
Adam Grant, Ph.D., a top-rated Wharton professor and the bestselling author of Originals and Give and Take, has become an expert in what makes organizations and people really good at innovating. And it’s not what he expected. Why is criticism central to success? Can you see your blind spots? Does arguing at home foster creativity in kids? How do we create more diverse, inclusive workplaces—where white men step up? After Grant gives us a crash course on evolving office culture, GP answers a question from one of you on something she’d like to change about herself.
There is often a great divide between what motherhood is supposed to be and the way people experience it in actuality. Psychiatrist Catherine Birndorf, M.D., unpacks that disconnect and the entire postpartum spectrum of mood, anxiety, and depression swings and makes the compelling case that we all need to be mothered a bit more. Following a good dose of reparenting love, GP fields an AMA on cleansing and what she eats every day.
Resetting Hormones, Weight & the Conversation Around Women’s Health
Board-certified OB-GYN physician scientist Sara Gottfried, M.D. (educated by way of Harvard Medical School and MIT) debunks myths about out-of-whack hormones, weight loss resistance, the significance of genetics, age, and motherhood—to show how it’s possible to reset your health one small change at a time. After, GP answers her first podcast AMA on her clean lifestyle.
For goop's inaugural podcast, GP spent an afternoon with the incomparable Oprah Winfrey. Their wide-ranging and honest conversation spans everything from Oprah's favorite acting role to her perspective on the MeToo movement and "the culture of enough" to the one life truth she knows for certain.