Download In this episode, Kyle interviews Daniel Shankin, Founder of Tam Integration. They cover topics including the Psilocybin Summit, child rearing, and integration practice. 3 Key Points: The Psilocybin Summit is an online conference on the myth, magic and science of psychedelic mushrooms. Psychedelic Integration is really a form of reparenting ourselves. We need to learn to ask ourselves how we can connect deeply without becoming codependent. Child rearing is an important topic. Nurturing a child with care and love is similar to the way we use psychedelics, meditation and yoga for healing. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Daniel Daniel came up in the psychedelic space in the 90’s Recreational use turned into therapeutic use He explains that as enlightenment called to him, it also called him to do shadow work He said the transformational work began in his 20’s He said there was no community so he used Ram Dass books to help with integration Daniel says that psychedelics made him feel a deeper sense of life, more responsibility in his role on earth, feel more connected, etc. His calling from these feelings led him to practice yoga, open a studio, provide trainings and more “People gain so much by being heard” - Daniel Child Rearing Daniel mentions talking to his wife about conscious child raising The conversation is about how to heal, not just talking about how to raise ourselves so we need less healing “How do I raise a baby with as little trauma as possible?” - Daniel Grof talks about the birth process in his books but kind of stops talking about trauma after the baby is out The baby is designed to be held by the mother, and to put that child in a box with other children in boxes without parents, in a cold and sterile environment is a horrible idea We project our own anti-social tendencies onto babies A baby is meant to have constant connection and attention, and when we give a baby neglect, we wonder why they have addiction, depression, etc. Psychedelic Integration is really a form of reparenting ourselves “How much deep connection can you offer and can you stand? How can I connect deeply without becoming codependent?” - Daniel Attachment and Healing As a yoga teacher for 20 years, he has found that there is a type of reparenting, that it is helping people to learn to help themselves “Caring for people is a good thing to practice, one of our greatest problems is self-centeredness” - Daniel Money isn't the problem, "my money" is the problem Samskara is a subtle tendency of the mind (like an eroded river) The tendency to prove that we exist, or to prove that we are right, is something that the ego promotes It takes energy to tame the ego and recondition ourselves “Am I trying to prove that I exist in order to feel loved?” If our needs are met and we feel safe and loved, we don't need to prove ourselves We tend to look for the quickest and easiest way possible for the least amount of suffering, we look for the quick fix, but there is a lot of work to be done typically It's important to introduce a meditation practice into a psychedelic practice Babies will cry into an endless void because they don't understand time, just like in breathwork or psychedelic sessions, where time is distorted Mindfulness of Enthusiasm Enthusiastic consent is where you can press someone into giving you consent Are they enthusiastic about engaging with you? If not, then don't Learn how to gauge enthusiasm Psilocybin Summit September 19-22, 2019 The 920 Coalition is doing for psilocybin what 420 is doing for cannabis There has never been a conference that is just psilocybin, and never fully online and live It allows people to attend a conference from home There is no venue to pay for, no tickets for travel, making it more accessible The goal is to get as much traditional information as possible Daniel says he's not advocating psychedelics, he is advocating meditation for those who use psychedelics Daniel hopes that with this conference, that he didn't choose the speakers to just spit facts, hopefully this is heart and mind education that helps people feel like there is something possible in their lives that makes them feel greater, and that may or may not include psilocybin Coaching vs. Therapy Some people do not need therapy, they need coaching and accountability We live in a world where our context does not always work to serve us How do we change our context to better serve us? Links Website Tam Integration The Psilocybin Summit About Daniel Shankin After a profound and intense awakening experience in 1998, Daniel dove deep into his yoga and meditation practice to stabilize his realization in his body and the world. He began teaching in 2002, and took over leadership of his neighborhood yoga studio in 2004. He’s directed several teacher training programs and taught on the faculty of even more. Daniel ‘Sitaram Das’ Shankin has dedicated his life to the cultivation of clarity, resilience, and heart. With the recognition that our true nature is vast and generous, wise, he strives to serve his clients in finding their own innate goodness and boundless strength. He currently offers leadership coaching with a heavy emphasis on mindfulness and somatics, and is based in Marin County. You can visit his website and learn more about coaching opportunities at sitaramdas.com.
In this episode, Kyle sits down to chat with Greg Kieser, Founder of think-tank, Supersystemic.ly and author of Dear Machine, a book written as a letter to a future super-intelligent entity. Topics covered include blockchain, AI, money, Psychedelic Investments and how psychedelics can help humanity prepare for the emergence of super-intelligent entities. 3 Key Points: Blockchain offers an enormous amount of opportunity, by taking data that would otherwise be protected by government or big corporations, and making it accessible to the general population for a more accessible information source. Money is this interesting concept, that we are storing our time, our energy and our goods in a piece of paper. Psychedelics can help with this, be rewiring the way we think about money and the overall exchange for goods and services. Psilocybin is a cure, its use does not need to be continued for it to work, so Compass Pathways is highly incentivized to continue to heal new people, which is what we want, healing at scale. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Greg Greg worked at a foundation in NYC aimed at reducing the rate of poverty He started an angel investment firm/think tank, Supersystemic.ly He wrote the book, Dear Machine, a letter to a future, super-intelligent entity Looking to the Past Our nutrition narrowed when we became farmers “The truth is, we can't go back to where we came from, we have to go to a new place, so how do we do that?” - Greg There is such difficulty with people living in clusters (cities) and transporting all of the food in from the country It's important for the psyche to get back to nature and even taking on a hobby as simple as gardening can be so healing Children’s immune system has been shown to become stronger when living on farms and playing with animals and in the dirt Psychedelics are helpful in understanding how interconnected everything is Integration of Technology Blockchains have the capacity to take data and pull it into a place where we have more control over it (can't be bought or sold) When we combine our knowledge of technology with psychedelics, we will really start to progress as a species Block Chain The creator of Bitcoin created BlockChain, which is a type of database that lives out on the internet that no one can own It offers an enormous amount of opportunity, by taking data that would otherwise be protected by government or big corporations, and making it accessible to the general population for a more accessible information source Greg mentions a block chain that will be a regeneration of land Maybe all the members donate $50 to the block chain, and those members then can follow the progress of a pond or the growth of a tree, etc Its a good example of a block chain being used for good Money Money is this interesting concept, that we are storing our time, our energy and our goods in a piece of paper Psychedelics can help with this, be rewiring the way we think about money and the overall exchange for goods and services AI AI is going to get more and more powerful and corporations and governments are going to want to get their hands on AI for more power In Dear Machine, Greg wrote about a super aware machine that helps us to make super intelligent decisions based on what food to eat (based on our microbes, our genetics, what is the most sustainable for the environment, etc)\ Greg fears that the government will try to take control of it and have its own agenda, but he thinks that with super awareness for decision making, that good will win Kyle mentions that the Western mind is so obsessed with Apocalypse AI and Superintelligence are going to accelerate whatever systems we already have in place If it happened right now, it would look ugly But, if we create a world that appreciates interconnectedness and the diversity and complexity of our minds and our bodies, then we will be in a much better place Psychedelics have a huge role to play, it allows us to appreciate things, it helps get our ego out of the way, it helps us break addiction Monoculturization has led to a lot of bad things “Don't try to change the system, just make a new system” - Buckminster Fuller Human well being and environmental stability are two metrics that we need to work on Interest in Psychedelics Greg's interest in psychedelics began when we was invited to Psilocybin ceremonies He said it just ‘clicks’ “You really don't understand what psychedelics are until you take them” - Greg He then began to invest in psychedelics, microbiomes, agriculture, etc Compass Pathways The main problem with the health system is that we get into the idea of patenting molecules Psilocybin is a molecule that can't be patented, so he's not worried Greg wants to see psilocybin use at a larger scale, so the medical model is a great way to get there As a part of Compass Pathway’s program, in order to be a therapist and provide the therapy, you have to go through the therapy yourself Psilocybin is a cure, its use does not need to be continued for it to work, so Compass is highly incentivized to continue to heal new people, which is what we want, healing at scale Looking Ahead Greg is most excited to see healing from opioid addiction Alcohol and tobacco fall under that in his hopes for healing Greg is also really excited about the microbiome and the gut connection to the rest of the body There was an Autism study that gave people with Autism a microbe transplant from healthy people and after 2 years there has been a remission of symptoms Microbiome Reddit Links Supersystemic.ly Dear Machine: A Letter to a Super-Aware/Intelligent Machine (SAIM) About Greg Kieser Greg Kieser is founder of Supersystemic.ly, a Brooklyn-based think-tank and angel investment firm dedicated to increasing humanity's readiness for the emergence of superintelligent entities through the study and spread of "supersystemic" perspectives and innovations. Kieser, whose university and independent studies of complex systems science form the operating thesis of the company, founded Supersystemic.ly after more than a decade overseeing a portfolio of technology initiatives at an NYC-based poverty-fighting foundation. His work at the foundation was driven by a complex set of metrics for measuring the impact of investments on the economic, physical and mental well-being of low-income New Yorkers. Dear Machine, and to a greater extent the company, unites his unique skills and knowledge in technology, social investing and complex systems science.
In this episode, Joe interviews Dr. David Nichols, American Pharmacologist and Chemist. Dr. Nichols has made many contributions to the psychedelic space and is recognized as one of the foremost experts for his outstanding efforts in medicinal chemistry of hallucinogens. 3 Key Points: Dr. David Nichols is the founder of The Heffter Research Institute, which promotes research of the highest scientific quality with the classic hallucinogens and psychedelics in order to contribute to a greater understanding of the mind leading to the improvement of the human condition, and to alleviate suffering. Dr. Nichols has a strong opposition toward the DMT/pineal gland theory. The assumption is that DMT is released during birth and death, but Dr. Nichols presents opposing arguments as to why it isn't true. David doesn't believe in the research of microdosing psychedelics. He believes there are many other diseases and disorders that research money could be put toward discovering drugs for than the potential for heightened creativity with microdosing. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About David When he was a kid he was into pyrotechnics He synthesized a lot of MDMA for MAPS He is the founding President of Heffter Research Institute He was introduced to psychedelics before he went to graduate school David's work was never interrupted during the drug war because he wasn't doing any clinical work He proposed the study for MDMA testing on rats for a micro-dialysis of chemicals being released from the brain David’s History of Substances David attended a meeting at the Esalon Institute He met Rick Doblin, a young kid at the time, who was enthusiastic about MDMA and Marijuana Rick decided he wanted to develop MDMA as a drug, and asked David to make it with him Then David met Rick Strassman, who asked him to make DMT So he made the DMT and then DMT Spirit Molecule came out as a result David made the first batch of psilocybin for John Hopkins “The only way to use these substances, is to use the medical model.” - David Microdosing David doesn't agree with microdosing, he thinks its all just a big hype He says that there is a huge placebo effect with microdosing He says there isn't a lot of proven results and literature to make him believe in it He thinks that there are far too many other things to research and create drugs to cure (like eating disorders for example) vs. just heightening creativity with microdosing David edited Torsten Passie’s book, The Science of Microdosing Psychedelics DMT Rick Strassman’s DMT hypothesis is that upon birth and death, the Pineal gland produces DMT, which produces an outer-body experience David says that the pineal gland is too small, it's only 180mg It produces 25 micrograms of melatonin in 24 hours, so there is no way for it to produce 25 milligrams of DMT, the amount needed for a DMT trip Heffter Origins Heffter Research Institute was David’s idea Arthur Heffter was a scientist with a PhD in Pharmacology and Chemistry He was one of the most well respected Scientists in Germany He got samples of Peyote, and knew there were alkaloids in it, and he separated all the alkaloids, and took each alkaloid himself to find out that mescaline was the active component in Peyote He was the expert who invented hair tests to find out if people were suffering from lead poisoning Heffter Research Institute The effects that they discovered from Psilocybin blew them away They knew LSD had powerful effects, but they weren't expecting to find the therapeutic benefits that they did with Psilocybin Psilocybin has a great timeline too, LSD is really long lasting, and 5-MEO-DMT is super short and really powerful Psilocybin is great for use in therapy because of the time it allows for integration GMP Psilocybin Patent Joe mentions the patent of GMP Psilocybin and asks if there are other ways to make psilocybin David says that he believes there are other ways to make Psilocybin The cost of psilocybin is trivial in comparison to the cost of therapy, David doesn't think that the drug itself will have a monopoly Links Heffter.org Donate About Dr. David Nichols Dr. Nichols originally conceived of a privately funded Institute as the most effective mechanism for bringing research on psychedelic agents into the modern era of neuroscience. This vision led to the founding of the Heffter Research Institute in 1993. He is currently an Adjunct Professor at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, NC, where he continues his research. The focus of his graduate training, beginning in 1969, and of much of his research subsequent to receiving his doctorate in 1973 has been the investigation of the relationship between molecular structure and the action of psychedelic agents and other substances that modify behavioral states. His research has been continuously funded by government agencies for more three decades. He consults for the pharmaceutical industry and has served on numerous committees and government research review groups. Widely published in the scientific literature and internationally recognized for his research on centrally active drugs, he has studied all of the major classes of psychedelic agents, including LSD and other lysergic acid derivatives, psilocybin and the tryptamines, and phenethylamines related to mescaline. Among scientists, he is recognized as one of the foremost experts on the medicinal chemistry of hallucinogens. His high standards and more than four decades of research experience set the tone to ensure that rigorous methods and quality science are pursued by the Institute.
Download In this episode, Kyle sits down with Dr. Torsten Passie, Professor of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy with the Hanover Medical School in Germany. In the show, they cover a range of topics on Dr. Passie’s studies on microdosing. Dr. Torsten Passie will be taking part in a special panel dedicated to microdosing at Breaking Convention 2019 (August 16-18, Greenwich, London), also featuring Amanda Fielding of the Beckley Foundation, Dr David Erritzoe of Imperial College, London, Dr Devin Turhune (Goldsmiths), and Dimitris Liokaftos, exploring myriad aspects of microdosing, including its effects, unknowns, and media representation presented by BC director Nikki Wyrd. Find out more about Breaking Convention: https://www.breakingconvention.co.uk/ 3 Key Points: Psychedelic research in the University setting died off after 2004, but is finally seeing an increase as the psychedelic revolution continues to grow. There is very little to no documentation of doctors doing self-experimenting with psychedelic drugs. It's becoming popular for therapists to use the substances used on their patients, more common to do the self-work before doing the work on others. Even if microdosing does not produce any significant effects and it is all placebo, the trend is a new way to introduce it into our society. The Science of Microdosing Psychedelics Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Dr. Passie Dr. Passie has been researching psychedelics for 25 years He specializes in the therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs He has found difficulties in researching psychedelics during prohibition Dr. Passie had a mystical experience before using psychedelics and then became interested in psychedelic use He had grown up as an atheist, a materialist, and his experience required him to change his psychological state His perception of reality was irritated and he had to see a therapist to integrate this experience He said that this was frustrating because he was young and still in search for his identity Through all of this, he decided to study medicine and become a psychedelic doctor He became very conscious that he was on the right track Research Studies The researchers were the only ones doing studies on psychedelic states, there wasn't much happening at the Universities He did studies with cannabis, ketamine and even laughing gas The research then was on how cannabinoids can help with psychosis They were not successful with that, but it came to be that CBD was a neuroleptic and an anti-psychotic Research pretty much stopped after 2004 due to new laws and the cost of the research Dr. Passie does mention that in the past 10 years research has really taken off again and that we are really seeing the renaissance of psychedelic culture In most of the literature of doctors doing self-experimenting, there is very little to no documentation of doctors doing self-experimenting with psychedelic drugs Kyle mentions that MAPS has included into their training protocol to allow for therapists to have self-experiments with the substances that they are using on patients Kyle also mentions he can't imagine trying to hold space in breathwork without having had his own experiences with breathwork Dr. Passie says that the history of self-experimentation with psychedelics has shown that the participants can become ‘gurus’ and lose their objectivity, he uses Timothy Leary as an example But with only a few times of self-experimentation, maybe 2-4 times, he doesn't see risks HPPD Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD) is a disorder in which a person has flashbacks of visual hallucinations or distortions experienced during a previous hallucinogenic drug experience Dr. Passie thinks there is a selection bias in what is published about HPPD Its more common to have a study published that talks about an adverse effect of LSD than a benefit of it Hundreds of thousands of studies were conducted in the 50’s, and no one claimed that this phenomenon came up And now one person has conducted a study, claiming that this phenomena exists Dr. Passie says that this pattern happens among people who are prone to anxiety and who are dissociative He says that most subjects that claim to experience HPPD, have experienced visuals even before ever taking LSD Microdosing It has been known to not have any effects from 15-20 micrograms of LSD 20-50 micrograms of LSD is considered mini-dosing, where you can feel some type of effects from it, but not as much as the full dose Dr. Passie says it is strange for people to claim to have increased cognition during microdosing based on conventional data that shows that LSD produces poor cognitive function He thinks that whatever the effects are of LSD at a high dose, that the effects at a low dose are the same, just less, not completely different effects He believes that there is some placebo effect with microdosing In terms of the microdosing trend, Dr. Passie is critical about the productivity factor, he does believe in the creativity factor though The flow state may also be increased with microdosing He claims that in his own experience with microdosing, he doesn't experience the flow state, in fact he experiences a feeling of agitation Combinations In a study, when patients took a microdose first, and then a little while later, they took a different full psychedelic dose, the microdose impacted the experience of the full dose It lessened the effects of the full dose psychedelic Psychedelics and Sleep Dr. Passie mentions a study where patients were given LSD, both high and low doses, during sleep What was found was that LSD impacts REM sleep patterns The dreams were not altered The REM phases got longer during the beginning of sleep, and then much shorter near the end of sleep It shows that the impact of sleeping patterns brings someone to feel much different the next day The Microdosing Trend Microdosing has much to be explored yet But even if microdosing does not produce effects, the trend is a new way to introduce it into our society “Microdosing might be a new assimilation process of psychedelics into our culture” - Torsten Instead of the 60’s where we are taking huge doses, we are taking tiny doses as a slow approach to assimilate psychedelics back into society Links The Science of Microdosing Psychedelics About Dr. Torsten Passie Torsten is a professor of psychiatry and psychotherapy affiliated with Hannover Medical School, and led the Laboratory for Consciousness and Neurocognition. He has conducted clinical research on psychoactive substances and has written several books including The Pharmacology of LSD (2010) and Healing with Entactogens (2012). Between 2012 and 2015 he was visiting professor at Harvard Medical School.
In this episode, hosts Kyle and Joe sit down with Psychologist, David Luke, Executive Director of Breaking Conventions, a conference on the better understanding of psychedelics. In the episode, they cover research on psychedelics and transpersonal ecopsychology. 3 Key Points: Transpersonal experiences are super powerful and can be valuable if integrated properly. Getting access to drugs at affordable prices for research is difficult for the progression of the psychedelic movement. There is a lot of red tape in studying psychedelics. There is a growing field for mapping altered states of consciousness using science and research. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About David David is a Psychologist He works at the University of Greenwich He is a co-founder of the Breaking Convention Conference Breaking Convention August 16-19, 2019 in London England There are over 180 speakers, a variety of workshops, and more David will be speaking about Shamanic perspectives and mapping altered states of consciousness The topic of David’s speech for the conference is Ecodelia: Towards A Transpersonal Ecopsychology Through Psychedelics. Parapsychology Parapsychology is a study of phenomena that questions what we think we know about science David has conducted pre-cognition experiments with ayahuasca, san pedro, mescaline Research David says it's tricky doing this work because there is a serious amount of red tape around psychedelic studies Getting access to the drugs and to get a lab to make them specifically for research is outrageously expensive David says that Compass Pathways is making the research side of things easier He says that he wants the proper research to be done so that it can be available for all those who need it, and for that he supports Compass Pathways, but if they were to pull something like what happened with Esketamine and making an isomer of Ketamine extremely expensive, then he will not support it Nature and Psychedelics Psychedelics provide a feeling of connectedness with nature People prefer to take psychedelics outside, but overall prefer to have amazing, transformative experiences, which in turn makes them more tuned in to nature Transpersonal Experience An experience that is genuinely transpersonal can be useful Typically after a transformational experience, people question their sanity, they have cognitive dissonance, their world view just isn't suitable enough to contain a normal sense of reality anymore Its common for a lot of experiences to need a lot of integration afterward David leads breathwork sessions He sees people who have taken loads of psychedelics come in with skepticism about Breathwork, and then leave having the most transformative experience they've ever have “There are no limits to the human mind, and there are many ways to get there, and psychedelics are just the more obvious route.” - David We get further and further away from figuring out psychedelics as a whole the more hyper-specialized we become in our individual fields The psychedelic space is a really interesting territory The things that Terrence McKenna would talk about years ago, we are finally starting to explore with science Links Otherworlds: Psychedelics and Exceptional Human Experience (Muswell Hill Press) About David David is Senior Lecturer in Psychology at the University of Greenwich where he teaches the Psychology of Exceptional Human Experience. He was President of the Parapsychological Association between 2009-2011 and has published more than 100 academic papers on the intersection of transpersonal experiences, anomalous phenomena and altered states of consciousness. He has co-authored/co-edited four books on psychedelics and paranormal experience, directs the Ecology, Cosmos and Consciousness salon at the institute of Ecotechnics, and co-founded Breaking Convention.
In this episode, Kyle interviews David Krantz, Certified Epigenetic Coach, and an expert in nutritional genomics. In the show, they talk about the effects of substances via the implications on an individual’s genetics. 3 Key Points: Epigenetic testing is a bio-hack for boosting cognitive function and harnessing our creativity and ultimate human potential. There has been a lot of research done on genetics and the effects of THC. The body produces cannabinoids that activate the THC receptors internally, which varies from person to person. Each person should be seen on an individual level, and the more we know about our unique genetics, the more we can understand about our interactions with different substances. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About David David works with clients on creating optimal epigenetic expression He uses people’s genetics as a guide to look at recommendations for diet, herbs, supplements, etc. He began looking at cannabis for recommendations and found curiosity in psychedelics too Epigenetics studies the effects of the modification of genetics It looks at chemical groups attached to the DNA itself and what happens to them over time Cannabis and Genetics The most robust area of research on genetics is THC David said he has seen some research on Psilocybin and just very recently that liver enzymes are responsible for LSD interactions It looks at the way people are metabolizing these substances When you ingest something or smoke it, it has a higher impact on the body, edibles are a great example Kyle brings up the curiosity of edibles impact being either physiological or biological Genetics show the body’s cannabinoid levels The body produces cannabinoids that activate the THC receptors internally There are two enzymes that break down cannabinoids in the body, Anandamide and 2AG There is a higher likelihood to use cannabis in a person with lower levels of endocannabinoids This makes some people high-functioning stoners, and others non-functioning stoners The substance is neutral, it's all about the body and how it reacts to it When the liver breaks down an edible, it makes THC more potent There is speculation that the slow metabolizers have a better chance of passing a drug test because they don't have a chance to convert 110HTHC to the COOHTHC Food and Substance Effects Kyle mentions someone who was drinking grapefruit juice everyday for 3 weeks, and it potentiated the effects of Ketamine In order to psilocybin to be converted to psilocin, you need a chemical in your body called alkaline phosphatase Vitamin C deficiency and Vitamin B-6 deficiency all both correlated with alkaline phosphatase deficiency David brings up his experience going keto, it worked really great for him, his energy levels increased, he lost weight, but his wife had a horrible time with keto Then he looked to genetics and it made perfect sense to him as to why it worked for him and why it failed for her Metabolism, biochemistry, genetics, and so many other factors impact a person's reaction to substances Gene Type Testing Apeiron David also mentions that with companies like 23 and me, they get their money from selling people’s genetic information He says Apeiron is focused on what you can actually do with the information, not just simply providing the results David says its super valuable for people to know these things about themselves, how to mitigate stress, how the metabolism works, knowing what to eat, knowing vitamin deficiencies, etc. Psychedelics in the Future of Epigenetics David thinks were going to see that the epigenetics of psychedelics are going to show the ability to overcome trauma When we look at people at an individual level, we all have our own idiosyncrasies and variations “Because there is no such thing as an average human, let’s stop treating people like average humans and start treating them like they are individual people. Let’s stop leaving out the outliers.” - David Taking an individualized approach to the psychedelic space is highly beneficial Links Website Instagram About David David Krantz is a certified Epigenetic Coach who specializes in boosting cognitive function and helping clients harness their creative and personal power. As a lifelong musician, David sees the various systems of the body as parts of a complex symphony. And, as a coach, he excels at fine-tuning those parts to create resonant harmonious health. David also serves as Director of Psychoacoustics at Apeiron Center in Asheville, NC where he develops sound-based tools for better mood, energy, and focus. Additionally, he’s an expert in the pharmacogenetics of the endocannabinoid system and has developed a proprietary genetic test for looking at individual response to cannabinoids. A biohacker by training and artist by nature, David enjoys working with others who have a deep passion for enjoying life.
Download In this episode, Kyle joins in conversation with Dr. Sam Gandy. During the show, they cover topics including the implications psychedelics have for human well-being and the biosphere at large at a time of growing disconnection. 3 Key Points: There have been a lot of recent threats to our planet and its survival if we continue on our current path of unsustainability. Feeling connected to nature increases the human desire to take care of and heal nature. There has been an inverse correlation with our connectedness to nature and our connection with technology. Getting out in nature, as well as using psychedelics in nature, both help increase our connectedness to nature. There has been a rise in cutting edge research that reveals the capacity of psychedelic substances to enhance human-nature connection, which Sam shares snippets of throughout the episode. 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Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Sam Sam has a PhD in Ecological Science from the University of Aberdeen and a Masters in Entomology from Imperial College London He has a lifelong interest in nature and wildlife and has conducted research in areas all over the world He is a Scientific Assistant to the Director at the Beckley Foundation He is a collaborator with the Psychedelic Research Group at the Imperial College of London Sam’s interest in psychedelics began in London when it was legal to buy mushrooms He was ‘anti-drug’ until he discovered psychedelics and began to explore consciousness and a love for nature His background in Ecology (the science of interconnection) has combined with the Psychedelic field Sam is interested in the capacity of psychedelics to increase human-nature connection and relatedness Saving Earth There is a huge threat that our planet won't survive past this century if we continue on our path of destruction Remedying our nature disconnect is something really important if we want to survive This nature disconnection is inversely proportional from our technological connection We cant live without nature We have to make room for all the other life going on, not just the life that directly serves humans, like crops and livestock There is an increasing awareness of the need for nature connection Sam mentions about humanity’s screen addiction, it raises our cortisol levels and there are many consequences such as psychological and physiological effects “Contentment is the enemy of invention” Psychedelics and the internet are growing alongside each other Timothy Leary would say the internet is the psychedelics of the future in terms of connection The internet is playing a pivotal role in access to information in this psychedelic renaissance “Technology is not good or bad, it's about how its used, the intent behind it” - Sam Nature Disconnect Sam thinks that the first step that took us away from nature is when we started farming, we became less hunter-gatherer minded and stepped away from the wild environment At that point we started living in large groups (creating cities) Then there was the division of labor and urbanization Cities and technology are the main reasons for our disconnect with nature “Long term sustainability would be one of the chief governing principles of how things are ran” - Sam Psychedelics and Nature There is something radical about psychedelics, they can convert the skeptics into appreciating nature The ego dissolution character of psychedelics are a key component in feeling connected to nature The default mode network (where the ego resides) becomes relaxed and dissolved, and when that happens there is a breakdown of perceived boundaries between self and others/nature That dissolution of boundaries is a key component in the psychedelic experience “When you feel part of it, it changes fundamentally how you relate to it” - Sam One's knowledge of nature is a very weak predictor of one's concern for nature There isn't research of the use of psychedelics in natural settings yet, Sam hopes that as we research psychedelics more (in clinical settings) the research can evolve into studying their use in nature With psilocybin, most people have claimed to have a long-term fleeting change in their connectedness to nature, that the feeling of connection doesn't go away after the trip is over, it lasts for weeks, months, even the rest of their life Rigid Egos and Nature Disconnection Psilocybin decreases blood flow to the default mode network "When we are destroying our own homes (our bodies and nature) are we falling out of love with our self?" - Kyle When we dissolve the ego, we increase connection, to ourselves, to others and to nature Future in Psychedelics We are going to see the rise of Psychedelic Therapy We are going to see Psychedelic groups and communities on the rise From those groups, we will see projects and initiatives develop, which could bring decriminalization, integration circles, etc. Sam believes the rise of depression and anxiety are a cause of our disconnection to nature, and he believes there is a lot of personal healing to be had if we get back into nature and actually play a role in healing nature too Instead of trying to save the world just for our children and our children's children, we need to look at this planet as if we were to reincarnate and come back to this planet, so we should want to look after this physical plane to make it better for future installments of ourselves Get Connected with Nature The direct, physical sensory experience with nature alone is well known to increase our connectedness with it Sam suggest listeners to get out in nature and do anything! Boating, gardening, bee keeping, a walk in the woods, whatever Sam really likes the art of Japanese Forest Bathing, which is about mindfulness and taking in nature, maybe combining it with breathwork exercises, etc. The more mindful you feel, the more connected to nature you are, and vice versa Final Thoughts Nature connection is just a single facet of the psychedelic experience, and Sam hopes for more research on this facet in the future We have a decent amount of research on psychedelics effect on people with depression, PTSD, etc, but Sam hints toward some future research on the effects of psychedelics on the healthy-normal population Make time for nature in whatever way works for you 2 hours of nature time a week are profoundly beneficial for health Links Facebook Twitter Email: firstname.lastname@example.org About Dr. Sam Gandy Dr. Sam Gandy works on the cutting edge of psychedelic research, as Scientific Assistant to the Director of the Beckley Foundation, and as a collaborator with the Psychedelic Research Group at Imperial College London. Sam has a lifelong love of nature and wildlife, and a PhD in ecological science from the University of Aberdeen. He has been fortunate enough to conduct field research in various parts of the world including the UK, Kefalonia, Almeria, Texas, the Peruvian Amazon, Vietnam and Ethiopia. Outside his work in the psychedelic field he has written papers, book chapters, articles and spoken at conferences and festivals on psychedelics and he is fascinated by their potential to benefit human lives.
Download In this episode, Joe and Kyle sit down and chat with Veronica Hernandez and Larry Norris of Decriminalize Nature Oakland. Decriminalize Nature is an educational campaign to inform Oakland residents about the value of entheogenic plants and fungi and propose a resolution to decriminalize our relationship to nature, which just recently had success in doing so. 3 Key Points: Decriminalize Nature Oakland is a campaign that just recently found success in decriminalizing psilocybin mushrooms as well as other psychedelic compounds naturally derived from plants or fungi, such as ayahuasca, peyote and DMT. The mission behind Decriminalize Nature is to improve human health and well-being by decriminalizing and expanding access to entheogenic plants and fungi through political and community organizing, education and advocacy. These decriminalization initiatives are gaining traction across many cities in the US. It's about connecting to key people in the community and educating them, so they can use their reach to get information about these plants out there, to provide access to people everywhere. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Veronica Veronica is a clinical psychologist licensed in Peru She has been working in the US as a Social Worker Clinician She has been combining plant medicines and spirituality back into psychology She is currently finishing her PhD at CIIS About Larry He is in the same PhD program as Veronica Him and Veronica are the team that created ERIE In between they have taken the time to run Decriminalize Nature Oakland Decriminalize Nature In this initiative, they had to convince 8 people of city council to agree to this, in comparison to the Denver Initiative, where they needed thousands of ballot signatures This bill included naturally occurring psychedelic compounds, not just mushrooms Larry mentions they used the word entheogen instead of psychedelic, as a way to create new conversation around the plant medicines a reduce the stigma A Win for Plant Medicine From where Veronica comes from, Ayahuasca and other plant medicines are national patrimony, state and church can't touch them To be able to bring these to a place where it's considered schedule 1, Veronica is super inspired about being able to make this happen Right now these plants are in a tug of war between money interest of the tax side and the government, and the other side of corporate interest The goal now is to educate people on what these plants do, safe practices and develop places and services to hold the space and make these plants available to people It's about connecting to key people in the community and educating them, so they can use their reach to get information about these plants out there Starting city by city is typically easier to initiate, to then have a better hold on direct action and education afterward to be able to duplicate on the state level They have had 50 different cities from 30 different states reach out to make this happen in their communities Veronica says that her first time trying San Pedro, she had felt an immediate connection to the plants It became her goal to combine conventional medicine with plant medicines and make it available to everyone “To be in touch with something bigger than yourself is one of the most important things" - Veronica Sustainability Although there was no verbiage in the bill, they are being mindful about sustainability of the plants when making them more available with decriminalization Synthesis is a better idea for ibogaine, 5-MEO-DMT and other compounds that are naturally derived but also pose a risk to their sustainability with decriminalization The landscape just doesn't allow for synthesis right now, so we start at decriminalization and then hopefully open doors to the route of synthesis to aid in the sustainability of these substances and resources Larry’s advice is that instead of spending your money and taking a trip to Denver or Oakland, to stay home and organize this is your own community because it can actually happen It starts now and it starts with education Joe says the most major push-back received in Denver for the decriminalization was the threat of people driving on mushrooms Links Website Facebook Instagram Twitter About Veronica Veronica Hernandez, is a clinical psychologist and shamanic practitioner from Peru. Since 2006 she has been trained on shamanic facilitation. She received her clinical training at the Institute of Rational-Emotive Therapy, New York, under the supervision of Dr. Albert Ellis. She was assistant professor at the Universidad Peruana Cayetano Heredia and research assistant at the Hospital Psiquiátrico Noguchi de Lima (Peru). In the United States, she worked as a Social Services Clinician at John Muir Health Hospital’s Inpatient Psychiatric Adolescent Unit, California. Currently she is completing her doctoral degree at California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS), San Francisco, where she is carrying out research on the healing and transformative benefits of entheogens, especially Ayahuasca. About Larry Larry Norris, MA, PhD Candidate is the co-founder and executive director of ERIE (Entheogenic Research, Integration, and Education) 501(c)(3), a group dedicated to the development of entheogenic research and integration models. Larry is also a co-founder and on the Board of Decriminalize Nature Oakland and helped to co-author the resolution which received an unanimous decision from Oakland City Council. Beginning his studies in cognitive science as an undergrad at the University of Michigan, he is now a PhD candidate in the East-West Psychology department at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in San Francisco. His dissertation reviews archived ayahuasca experiences to identify transformational archetypes that induce insights hidden within the experiences. As adjunct faculty at CIIS, Larry taught a graduate course called Entheogenic Education: Contemporary Perspectives on Ancient Plant Wisdom in order to discuss the concept of entheogens as educational teachers and cognitive tools. He was also an adjunct faculty at John F. Kennedy University teaching a class titled Paradigms of Consciousness. A dedicated activist and proponent of cognitive liberty, Larry’s efforts are a contribution to not only change the Western legal status of these powerful plants, fungus, and compounds, but also to emphasize the potential sacred nature of entheogens given the right set and setting.
Download In this episode, Kyle talks with Tom Lane, author of Sacred Mushroom Rituals: The Search for the Blood of Quetzalcoatl. In the episode, they discuss the history of Quetzalcoatl, the ceremony of the deified heart and sacred mushroom rituals. 3 Key Points: Quetzalcoatl is a feathered-serpent deity of ancient Mesoamerican culture that can come to you when partaking in the ceremony of the deified heart. Quetzalcoatl teaches how to overcome fear and hatred and bring love. The ceremony of the deified heart is a sacred mushroom ritual that when methods are combined correctly, can bring about Quetzalcoatl. In the episode, Tom tells intriguing stories of his experiences with mushroom rituals and experiencing Quetzalcoatl, including a ceremony with Maria Sabina. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes Quetzalcoatl He was not an Aztec, he originated as a King in the Toltec civilization thousands of years before the Aztecs As legend has it, where his blood fell is where the sacred mushrooms grew Some people believe he was a Naga, a combination flow of energy, a male/female serpent A winged, jeweled, male/female, serpent In the ceremony of the deified heart, the serpent will come to you About Tom He was building geodesic domes in a remote area in Mexico He had some of his first mushroom experiences, and it led him to realize that the story of mushrooms was about Quetzalcoatl His first experience with the mushroom was mild He said the mushrooms found him, he takes them as a sacrament Ceremony of the Deified Heart The legend was that Quetzalcoatl gave cacao to participants as an aphrodisiac and it would help release serotonin The goal is not to talk a lot Then, the mushrooms are to be retrieved from the ground, fresh Before the ceremony, Tom says he likes to put four candles placed in all four directions The key to eating the mushrooms is eating them totally covered with honey You eat them two at a time, as it represents the male and female And when you eat the mushrooms, you actually never swallow You chew and chew and the mucous membranes of your tongue take the psilocin straight to the brain and spine He says once it starts to take effect, it feels like there is a snake up your spine (He mentions his friends call this Kundalini) Then you go out and Quetzalcoatl will come When he comes, he is like a rainbow jeweled serpent, an embodiment of pure light, pure energy, pure love Tom says the next day it feels like you're 10 years younger Its a pure force of love, an obliteration of the concept of time Quetzalcoatl created this ceremony to bring about the serpent for healing, for a balance of male and female This ceremony is best done during the night, with thunderstorms in the mountains Ceremony with Maria Sabina One night they went to see Maria Sabina She agreed to do a ceremony at night Her house was in the mountains and had a thatched roof with no windows or doors and sometimes clouds would come through her house During a ceremony a lightning bolt came though the house, in one window and out the other Maria’s daughter gave him truffle like mushrooms and he brought them back with him Maria’s daughter really tried to learn his name, she repeated it a multitude of times until she said it exactly perfectly so she could say it during the ceremony Quetzalcoatl Messages God gave us love and pain We have to learn how to celebrate the pain God gave us knowledge, and tools of how to heal the pain Tom’s goal is to teach people how to take the sacred mushrooms to meet Quetzalcoatl and find healing, love and peace “Once you get rid of the ego, you get rid of fear, and then you have love.” - Tom The only way you can overcome hatred and fear is with love The body is teaching the mind when consuming the sacred mushroom It's best to just try to love people and be kind, and it's all acts of kindness and love that makes a person feel good Links Sacred Mushroom Rituals: The Search for the Blood of Quetzalcoatl About Tom Lane Tom, Author, has a Bachelors in Forestry from the University of Tennessee and a Masters from the University of Florida in Science Education and Middle School Education. He has worked full time in the Solar Energy field as a Contractor and Trainer and has a background in Mushrooms. Tom spent some time in 1973 living in the jungles of Palenque in Mexico and learn about mushrooms and mushroom ceremony. Tom is the Author of the book, Sacred Mushroom Rituals, The Search for the Blood of Quetzalcoatl.
Download In this episode, Kyle interviews Dr. Alexander Belser, a Clinical Researcher who has done a variety of works in the psychotherapy and psychedelic fields, helping patients heal from depression, OCD, suicide, and other illnesses, all while focusing on gender neutrality and equality. In this episode, they cover topics on privilege, inclusivity and recommendations for the psychedelic space. 3 Key Points: Privilege is commonly seen in therapist roles and as well in an individual’s access to treatment. It's important for the psychedelic community to be vocal about privilege and be inclusive of all types of people, all repressed groups. Psychedelics have the power to help people come to terms with their own sexuality, as well as become accepting of other individuals sexual identification. In order to see more equality in the psychedelic space, we need to confront structural heterosexism and transfobia, retire the male/female therapy diad, and develop acknowledgement in the psychedelic world of the stresses that LGBTQ people face. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Alexander Alexander started attending psychedelic conferences in college He works at Yale currently, treating individuals with major depressive disorders with psilocybin assisted psychotherapy He lives in New York and works on a team for the MAPS, MDMA trial for the treatment of PTSD Queering Psychedelics Queering Psychedelics is a Conference put on with the help of Chacruna Its an opportunity for Queer folk to come together and talk about psychedelic medicine Alexander's presentation was on Queer Critique for the Psychedelic Mystical Experience Privilege and Inclusivity People with more privilege have more power, more access to funding, more access to expanding the research agenda Many of the people in psychedelic research are privileged, white, cisgender individuals (and Alexander believes they are using the privilege for good) But it's important for the psychedelic community to be vocal about privilege and be inclusive of all types of people, all repressed groups Alexander thinks that we need to eliminate the male/female diad The typical structure for psychedelic therapy is to have a male cisgender therapist and a female cisgender therapist But Alexander thinks this is gender essentializing Its totalizing of gender, assuming that the masculinity is held by the male therapist, and femininity is held by the female therapist Alexander thinks that the therapists should be more gender neutral Its essential to assess the individual needs of the client for specific gender pairing Recommendations Alexander's Reccomendations Confront Structural Heterosexism and Transfobia Retire the Male/Female Therapy Diad Acknowledgement in the Psychedelic world of the stress that LGBTQ people face We need to be able to run moderation analyses to see if a type of psychedelic treatment works the same for sexual minority populations as it does for straight folks Are there unique clinical considerations for sexual minorities? The psychedelic Renaissance is maturing and reaching a point where our approaches can be more inclusive He thinks it's important for straight folks to think about this too “We all suffer, including straight folks, in a world where the idea of gender and sexuality is firmly printed as either being A or B. It's a disservice to our identities.” - Alexander It is common to feel “oneness” after a psychedelic experience, and it's common for gender roles to change throughout the process And on the flip side, maybe our perception of other people’s gender (homophobia) transforms from a psychedelic experience, and we can become more accepting of other forms of gender Mystical Experience When people score higher on the mystical experience questionnaire (profound unity, transcendence of time and space) its predictive of their improvements on depression and anxiety It's important to be mindful of what value we put on marginalized people’s psychedelic experiences The most common issue Alexander sees is people feeling ‘stuck’ in these bodies Psychedelic medicine encourages (at least in appeal) embodiment Final Thoughts First, we need to come to terms with our own internalized homophobia, transphobia and racism Together, we learn from each other, how to dismantle types of patriarchal, homophibic and transphobic structures MDMA expanded access may probably end up being very expensive, we need to think about privilege and access to mental healthcare broadly It's not just about diversity, Alexander encourages people to create allies He has hope that we can proceed with integrity in these topics Links Alexander's website Center for Breakthroughs About Dr. Alexander Belser Alexander Belser, Ph.D., is a Clinical Research Fellow and clinical supervisor at Yale University. He is the Co-Investigator of two studies at Yale exploring psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy to treat OCD and depression. His research with sexual minority people has focused on preventing suicide among adolescents and on the protective role of gay-straight alliances for students. Dr. Belser was a founding member of the Psychedelic Research Group at NYU in 2006, and he is currently an Adjunct Faculty member in NYU’s graduate program in Counseling Psychology. He has been a researcher on various psychedelic studies of depression, anxiety, OCD, addiction, trauma, and among religious leaders. He is a study therapist for the MAPS study of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD. Dr. Belser serves as a peer reviewer and has published peer-reviewed articles on topics such as psychedelic mysticism, altruism, patient experiences in psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy, cancer and psychedelic therapy, case studies, psilocybin treatment and posttraumatic growth (forthcoming).
In this episode, Kyle interviews Dr. Ido Cohen, co-founder of The Integration Circle. In the show they talk about themes that arise from transformative experiences and the different ways to integrate them through attitude change, environment and community. 3 Key Points: A common theme after a transformative experience is the calling for an attitude change. The experience is only the first step, the integration is where the real work begins. Environment is a critical part in integration. You can't always change your environment, but you can change your relationship to it by forming new coping mechanisms than the ones used before a transformative experience. Joining consciousness events, finding a therapist and looking for integration circles are all great way to not feel so ashamed or alone after a transformative experience. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Ido Ido is a Clinical Psychologist based in San Francisco He works with individuals and couples in integration groups Ido graduated from the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) He did his post-doctoral internship at C.G. Jung Institute in San Francisco He went to India and it opened up the psycho-spiritual realm for him He realized there is a lot more to this reality than what we see He had a powerful Ayahuasca experience, and it led him to choose his dissertation project He wanted to know how to take his experience and integrate it into his daily life Integration Ido began talking to people who had big transformative Ayahuasca experiences (pre, during and after) He interviewed people at a year out of an Ayahuasca experience, so they had time to reflect “For most people, something is calling them. Either curiosity or suffering.” - Ido The message comes through a relationship that we are having with something People felt that they had to go through something personal before they were able to go into archetypal realms A theme afterward was difficulty of re-entry (integration) Another common theme was people realizing that they need to change their attitude in order to heal It starts with small steps, maybe instead of watching TV for 2 hours you go for a hike for 2 hours, you open up to make room for change Ego and Self Jung’s idea of ego-self access; there is the ego that takes things and organizes them and processes things into our reality, and then the self that is the unconscious, the imaginary and dream state The idea is to look at the relationship between the two Are they fighting or are they in harmony? The role of community is so important “We need to learn to integrate not just the negatives, but also the positives.” - Ido Having pleasurable experiences can feel unsafe to a person who has been through a lifetime of negatives Transformative Experiences Personal and Environmental Most people have these experiences, and come back to the same urban environment, the same work mindset, the same cultural ideals about “achieving”, the instant coffee mentality “We want things fast because we don't want to suffer, we don't want to wait, we don't want to invest, we don't want to change.” - Ido “When people come back with this new experience but to an old environment, then the question is, ‘How can I not let the pressure of this old environment get in the way of my experience?’” - Ido It really is all about changing your attitude Maybe go journaling, go into nature, go dancing, etc. “How do I honor my process and not succumb to the pressures of using the same coping mechanisms as I had before?” - Ido Integration is a complex process Environment You can't always change your environment, but you can change your relationship to your environment You can start looking for integration circles You can start looking for therapy You can go to consciousness events, meditation/yoga groups It really depends on the person but it's all about finding resources that help you feel more connected, less ashamed, and less alone One of Ido’s clients said to him “I realize I have to break my own heart if I really want to change” Spiritual Bypass Ido suggests a great book on understanding spiritual bypass Spiritual Bypassing: When Spirituality Disconnects Us from What Really Matters When you start to be really critical about an experience, that's where you need to be more curious Shift from criticism to curiosity Jung says that this is ‘the lifelong process where we are slowly descending into our authenticity’ Final Thoughts Seek community Don't do it alone, even if you think you can, you don't have to If you're shy, come anyway, were all just doing our best Encourage people to seek out knowledgeable communities Take yourself seriously, honor these sacred experiences and honor yourself Links Integration Circle Website Instagram Facebook About Ido Cohen Ido offers depth oriented psychotherapy to the bay area out of San Francisco. Ido conducted his doctoral dissertation study for 6 years, researching the integration process of Ayahuasca ceremonies in western individuals, using a Jungian psychology lens. Ido is committed and passionate about supporting individuals engaging in psychedelic, entheogenic and other consciousness expanding practices, as they integrate their experiences to create long lasting and sustainable change. In addition to his psychotherapy practice, he offers individual and group preparation and integration services.
Download In this episode, Joe interviews Raquel Bennett, Psy.D. at Kriya Institute. In the show, they cover topics surrounding the properties and paradigms of therapeutic Ketamine use. 3 Key Points: The Kriya Institute is devoted to understanding the therapeutic properties of Ketamine. Raquel Bennett specializes in using Ketamine therapy for patients with severe treatment resistant disorders. There are three questions that should be used when determining if someone is fit for Ketamine therapy. Is it safe? Is it legal? Is it ethical? There are many different paradigms for Ketamine Therapy, but determining the best method for each individual patient is the goal. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes Kriya Institute The Kriya Institute deals with how to work with Ketamine specifically in Psychiatry and Psychotherapy Kriya provides clinical services to patients, training for other clinicians, and Kriya conference The conference is a big collaborative meeting Raquel is trying to create a patient assistance fund to make services more available to people Ketamine Ketamine isn't addictive physically It is possible to become psychologically addicted to Ketamine Raquel thinks its a property of the person not of the object It's possible to become addicted to anything, shopping, sex, etc. About Raquel She first encountered Ketamine in 2002 when she was suffering from severe depression She was seeing a therapist that took her to a psychedelic shaman where she took Ketamine From the way she felt after taking Ketamine, she wanted to know if it was replicable for other people She is interested in people with treatment resistant mood disorders, such as severe depression, unusual bipolar disorder and people living with active suicidal ideation She remembers her teachers (who gave her Ketamine) saying they don't use it often, and don't know if it will work They were not seeking an antidepressant effect, they were helping her to connect to the cosmos and the universe, to find out why she was having such severe depression The fact that it acted as a rapid-acting antidepressant was a surprise to them, and that's what triggered her curiosity with it “Most of what I know of being a Ketamine provider, I learned from being a patient” - Raquel Ketamine and Patents Johnson and Johnson just came out with a filtered Ketamine product that they patented $850 for 84mg of filtered Ketamine $1.59 for 100mg of generic Ketamine They are only providing it as a nasal spray Companies tried to make a new molecule, but they couldn't Instead, they modified it, and filtered it, and then patented it (Esketamine) Ketamine Treatment Paradigms There is a lot of disagreement on the route, the dose, the setting importance, etc This was the reason she created the Kriya conference, to share ideas, to find the best possible methods One way is to give it as a low dose infusion out of the anesthesiology model (0.5mg of Ketamine per kg of bodyweight in an infusion center) They aim to get enough ketamine in the patient's body without the psychedelic effects They take the normal dose, divide it by 6, and space it out to avoid the psychedelic nature The patient is being forced into a passive role, they aren't being called to heal themselves, they are just showing up for the medicine Raquel says that's not all that there is to it, the medicine is only half of it Another paradigm for using Ketamine is facilitated Ketamine Psychotherapy In this way, the Ketamine is used as a lubricant for talk therapy We are using Ketamine to help people to talk about material that is too painful or too shameful to get to otherwise” - Raquel In this paradigm, the emphasis is on the therapy, not the Ketamine, the Ketamine is a lubricant and a tool In this way, the patient and the therapist are both participating 50%, the patient is not passive She says the psychedelic effects are to be avoided, or else the patient becomes too far out The third paradigm would be to induce mystical experience on purpose As a provider, it is believed that the visions are meaningful Only about 1 in 6 patients are actually a good candidate for psychedelic dosing The patient is willing to offer their body up as a vessel, and the messages they receive are from God The provider's role is to make sure the journey is safe, and then help the patients to help construct meaning from what they saw, create actionable steps on how to change their lives Raquel says that all of these paradigms are helpful, different methods work for different patients That’s her job as a Ketamine Specialist, to determine which method is best for patients “This is where the direction of the field needs to go, being aware of the spectrum of the services available, and then matching the treatment to the patient. Individualized treatment.” - Raquel Proper Use Is it safe? Is it legal? Is it ethical? Is it appropriate to give Ketamine Treatment to someone without a profound impairment or disorder? The literature supports the use of Ketamine for the following psychiatric or psychological disorders; major severe refractory depression, bipolar depression, physical pain with depression, recurrent suicidality and obsessive compulsive disorder Do the potential benefits verify the potential risks? Raquel doesn't believe that making this experience available to everyone is the right way, her goal is to demonstrate that Ketamine is safe and useful for refractory problems Group Administration They can work with 6 clients at a time It includes carefully selected individuals that all fit into the group This provides a much lower cost for patients Ketamine Types There are 3 Types of Ketamine The molecules themselves are not flat, they are 3 dimensional and fold in space Some molecules are ‘right handed’ and others are ‘left handed’ Right handed molecules are Arketamine and left handed are Esketamine Generic Ketamine is an even amount of Arketamine and Esketamine molecules What Johnson and Johnson did with Esketamine was patenting the filtration process of removing Arketamine from the Esketamine molecules Kriya Institute Site Kriya Conference in November A list of providers working with therapeutic Ketamine A resource list of books and journey music A Contact option Links Website About Raquel Bennett Dr. Bennett is a Post-Doctoral Fellow in Clinical Psychology (PSB 94022544), working under the supervision of Dr. Bravo. Dr. Bennett primarily works with people who are experiencing severe depression, who are on the bipolar spectrum, or who are contemplating suicide. She has been studying the therapeutic properties of ketamine since she first encountered it in 2002. In addition to her clinical work, Dr. Bennett’s practice has evolved to include consultation services for medical professionals who wish to add ketamine services to their offices. She also lectures frequently about therapeutic ketamine. Dr. Bennett is the Founder of KRIYA Institute and the Organizer of the KRIYA Conferences.
In this episode, Joe and Kyle interview Ben Eddy, a Black Belt from Eddy Bravo’s 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu system. In this episode, they cover a range of topics on Jiu Jitsu, Psychedelics and flow state. 3 Key Points: Before Jiu Jitsu, Ben says he was very analytical, thinking of the most efficient, fastest way to complete anything. Jiu Jitsu is an ‘in the moment’ type of game, and it allowed him to tap into a flow state. Psychedelics have the ability to imprint you and change your thought patterns, and when combined with a sport like Jiu Jitsu, you're able to achieve a type of embodiment you wouldn't have before. We do not need to rush into psychedelics at a young age. It is important to experience life for what it is first, and to feel that fully to have a comparison to after diving into the psychedelic realm. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Ben Ben got into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu when looking for a way to get in shape He was in San Francisco in the tech scene He was into wrestling in his past and competition and he found that Jiu Jitsu was similar His main instructor, Eddie Bravo, was training for a match He wanted to be around the energy of this event He moved down to southern California and that is where his psychedelic use began Ben knew that when he was going to do psychedelics, there was going to be a before and after, that there were going to be doors that were going to be opened He says he took the time to really understand the sober life before psychedelics, in order to know the difference Ben describes it as a cool opportunity to wait to use psychedelics, he had the choice to wait and experience life and figure out what life is before psychedelics Joe says for the younger listeners “meditate on that”, figure out life first before diving into psychedelics Strategy vs Flow Before Jiu Jitsu, Ben says he was very analytical, thinking of the most efficient, fastest way to complete anything Jiu Jitsu is an ‘in the moment’ game, where there is more of a ‘flow state’ He was running into people that could just ‘find answers in the moment’, there was no plan or no strategy, it was a natural flow Psychedelics and Training Training with an active dose was hard to get to at the start Ben trains now with active doses It has the ability to imprint you and change your thought patterns Ben’s active dose is 2 grams of mushrooms during a practice Ben does mention that all people are different and his active dose is different than anyone else's Jiu Jitsu makes you bring everything that you have up to the forefront in that moment Feeling is a way of knowing, especially in these flow states He says that weed is commonly used in Jiu Jitsu, but he hasn't seen a whole lot of Psychedelic use yet Ben says that weed helps you drop into the one instrument that you're trying to play, get into that flow state Jiu Jitsu is a sport of form, technique, and dance, it's not about strength Origins Jiu Jitsu came from Japan and their Judo Then it came to Brazil and mixed with the beach vibes and turned into Jiu Jitsu Then it came to the west and our beaches and developed into what it is today Kyle mentions the idea of using Paul Stamets ‘microdosing’, psilocybin, lions mane and niacin In that state we are creating new neurogenesis and neural pathways and being in that state may make us learn differently Kyle says its an interesting application for performance and new ways of learning Ben says the goal is to get to a certain level of embodiment, at every point you're trying to be present in the here and now Music After Jiu Jitsu, music took on a whole new color, feel and wave for Ben than it did before He thought music was a distraction Once he started to play with flow more, he began to open up to music to live in it Jiu Jitsu and the flow state really start with the breath Its like breathing in and accepting life, and the exhale is where it all lets go Links 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu About Ben Ben Eddy is a Blackbelt at 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu system. Starting off in the tech scene in San Fransisco, Ben relocated to southern California, where he began his journey into Jiu Jitsu, psychedelics and tapping into the flow state. He currently travels and competes.
Download In this episode, hosts Joe and Kyle interview Hamilton Souther, Shaman of Blue Morpho. In this episode, they cover Hamilton’s incredible journey from Western life into becoming a Shaman and the spirit teachings that he experienced along the way. 3 Key Points: Hamilton Souther, a Shaman of Blue Morpho, shares his experience from living a normal Western life to his journey of his calling, learning and training to become a Shaman. He shares amazing examples of connectedness and spirit while living amongst the natives. A common concept that comes out of an Ayahuasca ceremony is that the plants care for you. The teachings that come from the plants are peace oriented and resolution oriented and opening of creativity and problem solving. Shamanic training is a long and extremely difficult journey. Training comes to the people that feel the deepest calling, because you have to commit your whole life to it. 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Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Hamilton He grew up in Silicon Valley He went to CU Boulder for Anthropology He was interested in humanity He wanted to travel and had opportunities to He had some near death experiences and accidents when he was younger The year after he graduated from college he would go into spontaneous awakenings and altered states of consciousness while totally sober He would have really intense visionary experiences in those states Those experiences were so powerful which led him into training and into his Ayahuasca experiences He felt without purpose and gave himself up to something greater He turned to shamanism to try to explain the nature of those experiences Spontaneous Awakening Kyle mentions that this can happen, that substances are not always required for an ‘awakening’ Hamilton says he wanted to connect to something other than himself The path took him to Peru, and there was a possibility of meeting people with Ayahuasca He was being called to it and knew they were real and it led to his ‘apprenticeship’ as a Shaman It wasn't by accident that he was there, he had visions that he was supposed to stay there and to learn Discernment Coming from a scientific background, he demanded (from the spirit guide) that the process be practical and grounded in reason and logic He used doubt in a way that he was able to use a lot of proof and truth toward his belief system rather than just being naive and believing these messages too early He couldn't envision how to evolve from the vomiting, defecating human on the ground to the composed shaman in the room Even though he spoke the language, he couldn't understand what the people were saying when they shared their stories It seemed like a different world to him The first few years were learning how to survive in the jungle and learn how to live off of the food He says it was like reliving his childhood, he had no idea how to walk through the forest like he knew how to walk down a street growing up The first house he lived in out of college was one he built himself with locals These experiences were so far from what he grew up in Toward the end of his apprenticeship, ceremony started to look less impossible and more of something he would dedicate his life to Spirit In the indigenous communities, everybody sees spirits, especially at night And not just in the Ayahuasca culture, its everybody. They thought the jungle was literally alive with spirits They would say things like “call me if you need me” and they meant it telepathically Hamilton says “sure enough, they do answer when you call”. He was in Southern Peru at a pizzeria, and they were in ceremony, and they started to call to him He had to excuse himself from the table and go outside and sit with himself and went into an Ayahuasca vision and the two men in ceremony said to him in the vision “we just wanted to call to say hi” So Hamilton, using his doubt, wrote down the place and the time of when this happened, and when he returned from his travels and got back to the community, the two men gave him the coordinates and time where Hamilton was when they called him. It matched perfectly He realized then and there that they had a very different understanding of the forest and of space time and they were tapped into another kind of knowledge and wisdom That's what he was looking for when he came down to the Amazon in the first place “The mysteries of consciousness are really unexplored and are not studied by science at all” - Hamilton For Westerners, reality and how it is experienced is just a tiny slice of total consciousness “When you're in the amazon, and you're living in the forest and you're participating in these visionary experiences, you see the interconnectedness of life.” - Hamilton “Globally we've all agreed that education, literacy and participating in the economy is worth it. I think it's worth it to really address on a massive scale what were facing collectively. It's a part of our natural evolution.” - Hamilton The plants have a very specific role to play, and that they care That's a common concept that comes out of an Ayahuasca ceremony, that the plants care for you The teachings that come from the plants are peace oriented and resolution oriented and opening of creativity and problem solving Especially with the environmental crisis, people who turn to Ayahuasca start to care for the environment Psychedelic plants have a huge role to play in global life, individual growth and collective change Blue Morpho Its a center that Hamilton and the shamans that he works with created They did a ceremony to talk with the plants to make sure that this was okay to use as an offering to everyone It started in 2003 and evolved over the years to practice traditional ceremony and now San Pedro People come from all over the world to visit them The majority of the people are really coming for the right reasons, with clear intentions for transformation, growth, exploration and personal healing Over 17 years they have focused on bettering services and professionalism and they believe they have truly succeeded Ayahuasca is just one aspect of Amazonian plant medicine There are hundred of plants with medicinal healing properties The Dieta is a period of time where you go into deep individual isolation and connection to a specific medicinal plant where you create a relationship with a plant Then you go into the Ayahuasca ceremony and Icaros are sung and you drink the Ayahuasca Then the Dieta is a time where there are restrictions such as abstinence, no alcohol, strict food diet, no medications, etc. and you go into a meditative state for healing for a time of a few days, to weeks to even months Shaman Training Training comes to the people that feel the deepest calling, because you have to commit your whole life to it Then, you find a lineage of shamans that are willing to accept you (if you aren't born into a lineage of shamans) It's a journey, and you have to find a group of people open for training It's different from any kind of training from the western world, it's a tremendous journey, and it could take years to decades Its meant to be a test, and incredibly difficult When Hamilton trained, he was told that 1 out of 100 make it to be actual shamans It's really a job of service, not an exalted one The reason the training is so incredibly difficult, is so that you can sit with people, who are going through extremely difficult, and transformational experiences and you can be there for them and love and support them unconditionally with the strength gained through the training process “Its a role of service, you have to be able to deal with any form of suffering that people come to you with.” - Hamilton Final Thoughts Stay open minded He warns about a dystopian world We need to be the change makers, and there is a lot we can do We are incredibly powerful, especially when we are united in common goals Whether they are about human rights or the climate There is something mysterious about life itself Links Website About Hamilton Souther Hamilton focuses his work on Universal Spiritual Philosophy. He is bilingual in English and Spanish, has a Bachelors degree in Anthropology, and has studied shamanism in California, Cusco, and the Amazon. Hamilton was given the title of Master Shaman by Alberto Torres Davila and Julio Llerena Pinedo after completing an apprenticeship under Alberto and Julio. He guides ceremonies and leads shamanic workshops, in which he shares Universal Spiritual Philosophy.
Download In this episode, Joe records with Sean McAllister, an attorney who helped advise Decriminalize Denver. During this special, extra episode, Sean helps us understand the language in the recent bill for Mushroom Decriminalization in Denver, CO. 3 Key Points: Recently, Psilocybin Mushroom Decriminalization passed on the ballot in Denver, CO. Psilocybin mushrooms have not been made legal, they have simply been decriminalized. This means that Denver has the lowest law enforcement priority around psilocybin and that no money can be used to criminalize this behavior. Decriminalization of Psilocybin in Denver is a big step toward changing the stigma around psychedelics. But we need to be careful, decriminalization is just a tiny step in the right direction and we need to be respectful and responsible with this initiative. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes On May 8th, the city of Denver, Colorado voted yes on I-301, which decriminalizes the possession and use of Psilocybin-containing mushrooms. The official results will be certified on May 16th. As of May 9th - the unofficial results are - yes (50.6%) and no (49.4%). I-301 decriminalizes adult (21 years or older) possession and use of Psilocybin mushrooms - making these offenses the lowest priority for law enforcement. This initiative also prohibits law enforcement to spend money and resources enforcing arresting adults with possession of mushrooms. Sean’s Role in the Mushroom Decriminalization in Denver, CO Sean is an Attorney with McAllister Garfield Law Firm in Denver He has done a lot with cannabis law since 2005 He heard about the Mushroom Decriminalization campaign and began working with them His role started in January to help the team understand what it would look like if the bill passed and his role definitely continues going forward now that it has passed What the Vote Means “Decriminalize” means just that Psilocybin mushrooms have not been made legal, they have simply been decriminalized “You should never be arrested for putting something in your body that grows naturally in nature.” - Sean This means that Denver has a lowest law enforcement priority around Psilocybin Its not legal, it's not regulated This bill means that a person cannot be imprisoned for possession and cultivation for personal possession amounts The city is not supposed to spend any money to criminalize this behavior You can grow them to eat them yourself, but you can't grow them to sell them This also doesn't mean that groups can host events and ‘give out’ mushrooms as a gift in return for donation, this is not good behavior for this initiative This initiative is simply a first step at looking at mushrooms in a better light and reducing the stigma For the benefit of this bill passing, we have to be careful about amounts, the smaller the amount of mushrooms the better There isn't an amount listed in the bill to distinguish between personal use and intent to sell The city has to establish a review commission What this commission is supposed to do is track the public safety impact, use, criminal justice impact, etc We hope and guess that Psilocybin will not impact any of these, just like how Marijuana did not impact anything for the bad when it was decriminalized Once the city sees the results, they won't have so much stigma about it, and Denver will lead the way for the state and the rest of the nation for sensible drug policy Political Pushback The typical response was “we already legalized marijuana, let’s not jump to something else” Sean thinks this gives Denver an amazing reputation, that it understands therapeutic ability and research and no tolerance for the drug war “We need a system that addresses public safety concerns but maintains as much personal liberty as possible on these topics” - Shane Other Initiatives Sean is a part of Chacruna, based in San Francisco Oakland is attempting to Decriminalize Nature, which by nature means all naturally occurring substances They aren't on a ballot, they are looking to convince city council to agree with it and accept it California attempted to raise signatures to be on the ballot in the 2018 election but it failed to get on the ballot Oregon is now collecting signatures to get on the ballot at the state level in 2020 Oregon's model is for medicalization, Sean expresses concern for a purely medical model Between big pharma and quiet equity firms, they want to monetize on psychedelics like they did with marijuana, and that's what we risk with medicalization Psychedelic Liberty Summit in 2020 in the Bay Area will be to talk about the rights and wrongs around psychedelic initiatives Final Thoughts Sean mentions a possible system that revolves around a licensing structure Similar to how we get a drivers license; we practice, we take tests, etc. For psychedelics, we would need to learn the effects, harm reduction techniques, take tests to verify our knowledge, etc and receive a license that allows us to use psychedelics freely If we abuse psychedelics and use them improperly, then we would get our license taken away, suspended, etc. Overall, after this initiative passing, we have to be careful we don't ruin this victory with poor behavior Let’s just do what we're doing respectfully, responsibly, and to ourselves Links https://mcallistergarfield.com/ https://chacruna.net/council-for-the-protection-of-sacred-plants/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/attyseanmcallister/ About Sean McAllister Sean T. McAllister is one of the nation’s leading cannabis business attorneys, licensed to practice law in both Colorado and California. Sean’s legal work focuses on the complex interplay between corporate law and state cannabis regulatory structures and federal law. Sean is a recognized leader in the cannabis industry. In 2004, he founded Sensible Colorado, which worked on all of the ballot initiatives in Colorado that culminated in recreational cannabis legalization in 2012.
Download In this episode, Joe talks with Shane LeMaster, Licensed Addiction Counselor and Certified Mental Performance Consultant. Shane is also involved in Psychotherapy as well as Sport and Performance Psychology and Psychedelic Integration Therapy. In this episode they cover a range of topics such as social work, Ketamine, sensory deprivation, psychedelic icons and the psychedelic culture. 3 Key Points: Shane has a podcast of his own, and his goal with the podcast is to bring people’s personal experiences to light to learn from them, to master the potential of our minds. Ketamine is a great gateway to opening up people’s minds to all of the other psychedelics. Its also a great place to start for therapy. Every single facilitator or shaman has different techniques and styles and that's okay If we don't have differences then we won't have styles to choose from. 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Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Shane Joe and Shane met up recently at a Psychedelic Club meeting about harm reduction in Fort Collins Shane just got accepted into the PhD program in social work at CSU He had been pursuing a PhD program in psychology and it wasn't working out for him so he decided to take the social work route He works with many people and has developed a strong skill set on the micro level and he wants to start making impact on a macro level with helping people Social Work Shane thinks of social work as an integrative approach for every discipline that we find useful, to come to a holistic, greater understanding of an issue Shane wants to use Ketamine as a ‘medium’ term goal, because it's legal But ketamine is not where he is going to stop, he finds there are benefits in many other substances He would love to work with LSD and Psilocybin He will continue to offer his services through his business Mind Ops Shane’s Podcast - Conversations with the Mind His goal with the podcast is to bring people’s personal experiences to light to learn from them It's important to create dialogue and invite people for conversation with differing opinions The goal is to create a theory that implements both opinions Ketamine Ketamine is a great gateway to opening up people’s minds to all of the other psychedelics Shane has had a lot of personal and recreational experiences on Ketamine and when he returns to it as a medicine, he is able to attain and sharpen skills for mindfulness Joe brings up the idea that recreational ketamine could have the ability to bring up past trauma or may re-traumatize someone if not used therapeutically Ketamine has a lot of risks, but being educated and using the substance correctly can be absolutely beneficial Shane says we shouldn't try to avoid trauma, we should accept it and use it for good and let it power us “Sometimes we don't even know what were suppressing. We need some assistance to show us what were avoiding in life and I think that psychedelics help with that a lot.” - Shane Sensory Deprivation Shane says he’s interested in John Lilly's work from back in the day and his terminology of being able to meta-program your human brain Joe says John Lilly was a big part of isolation chambers which led to float tanks Psychedelic Icons Joe mentions Robert Anton Wilson, he was good friends with Timothy Leary He had great critiques, great books and worked with Leary on the 8 levels of consciousness Joe suggests listeners to read The Illuminatus! Trilogy: The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden Apple, Leviathan “My interest is not in psychedelics themselves, but psychedelics as a means to access higher states of who we are, parts we have forgotten.” - Shane Psychedelics are just one way to tap into ourselves and discover our ultimate potential “We should all be questioning, everyday, changing our belief systems” - Shane “Belief is the death of intelligence” - Robert Anton Wilson Shane says a lot of people give Leary a bad rap, but Shane appreciates what he has done Joe mentions ‘smile squared’ - Space, migration, intelligence and life extension TFYQA - Think for yourself question authority “Turn on, Tune in, Drop out” - Timothy Leary Shane says that phrase sticks with him, it called to his rebel phase in youth to grow and do this work in his life The Psychedelic Culture Splitting - a rephrase of divide and conquer Joe says the psychedelic world is very cut throat "We should take care of each other a bit more in this space" - Joe Shane says, we need to lift each other up versus look for ways to step over each other Every single facilitator or shaman has different techniques and styles and that's okay If we don't have differences then we don't have styles to choose from “We can't become fundamentalists in our own practices, we need to value the differences culturally and from a world view. They are all valuable.” - Shane Links Website Mind Op Youtube Podcast About Shane Shane earned his Bachelor of Arts Degree in Psychology from the University of Colorado in Boulder, CO, completed extensive coursework towards a Master of Arts Degree in Sport & Performance Psychology at the University of Denver, and earned his Master of Arts Degree in Sport & Exercise Psychology from Argosy University. Shane is nationally certified as a Sport Psychology Consultant and a licensed mental health clinician in the state of Colorado. Having worked in community non-profit mental health since 2008, Shane has gained experience working with the entire spectrum of mental disorders and with all populations and age groups. Shane plans on attending a Ph.D program in Counseling Psychology where his interest in Resiliency, Mental Toughness, and Mindfulness Training Program Development can be explored and further developed. He is a life-long athlete having competed at various levels in more than a dozen different sports. Because of his passion for warrior cultures of past and present, Shane has been ardently developing his own “Warriorship,” training in various forms of Martial Arts for 25 years. Shane feels that the self-discipline, the philosophy of non-violence, the innumerable mental and physical benefits, and the enjoyment that he gains from the Martial Arts is what helped drive his passion in the field of Psychology. His personal interest in Eastern Philosophy stems from his adoption of a Buddhist lifestyle and blends well with his training in Western Psychological Science. Clients describe Shane as an out-of-the-box clinician that is easy to get along with, knowledgeable on a variety of topics, credible with lived experience, and as having the ability to make therapy fun and interesting.
Download In this episode, Kyle hosts a conversation with Veronika Gold from the Polaris Insight Center, a center that offers Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy. They compare and contrast Ketamine Psychotherapy methods and Ketamine Infusion. 3 Key Points: The most studied way of using Ketamine has been infusion, mainly used for treatment resistant depression and PTSD. Veronika used lozenges and intramuscular Ketamine therapy working for Polaris. When people are healed from depression, there is a lot of anxiety and activation that happens. Infusion clinics don't offer the therapeutic help that comes with Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy. The dissociation that happens with Ketamine is a different dissociation that happens with trauma. With trauma, dissociation happens when the nervous system can't handle the stress in someone's life, with Ketamine, it allows people who feel dissociated from their trauma, to feel again. 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Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Veronika She specialized in trauma treatment She is involved in the clinical trials for the treatment of PTSD, sponsored by MAPS in San Francisco Veronika is originally from Czech Republic She studied at CIIS She grew up in the Czech Republic in a communist time so she dealt with a lot of trauma She met Stan Grof at 16 at a Transpersonal conference She was fascinated with his work and Transpersonal Breathwork became a part of her healing It lead her to study psychology and become a psychotherapist and study non-ordinary states Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy Ketamine therapy has been studied from the late 60’s until today The most studied way of using Ketamine has been infusion, mainly used for treatment resistant depression and PTSD In Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy, the therapy is as important as the medicine There is a biochemical effect of Ketamine When people are healed from depression, there is a lot of anxiety and activation that happens Infusion clinics don't offer the therapeutic help that comes with Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy Benefits of Ketamine Psychotherapy The treatment method used at Polaris includes a comfortable room, eye shades, music tailored to the therapy, and an ongoing therapist They use non-ordinary states of consciousness as a part of the transformation They use lozenges and IM (Intramuscular) Only 30% of the ketamine from the lozenges are effective The lozenges allow for a slow onset of the medicine With IM, a higher dose can be used because it's less taxing on the body and more effective The property of Ketamine is dissociation Veronika says she prompts people to explain where they are, to share about what comes up for them “Sometimes there are memories that come up that are connected to their struggle. Sometimes they do full trauma processing. There are times where they go inside and then come out.” - Veronika Ketamine vs. Classic Psychedelics They used Ketamine as a means to do the work legally For the work that is being done underground, the therapists are putting themselves at risk for legality, and it does impact set and setting But even if other substances were legal, Veronika thinks Ketamine will still be used for certain issues Ketamine is described as a +4 on Shulgin’s scale A moderate to high dose can allow people to have a near death experience or ‘review of their life’ The dissociation that happens with Ketamine is a different dissociation that happens with trauma With trauma, dissociation happens when the nervous system can't handle the stress Opposingly, with Ketamine, it allows people who feel dissociated, to feel again Veronika mentions a study that says the higher the effects of dissociation from a Ketamine session, the higher the antidepressant effects are. She has work in somatic studies and organic intelligence Breathwork Veronika’s experience with Breathwork helps her understand her patients The bodily experience that happens in Breathwork also helps her understand the body movement/energetic blockages, etc that happen in Ketamine therapy The last 30-90 minutes is where the integration starts Sessions They do mainly one-on-one session but have done a few pair therapy sessions Veronika says its easier to do one-on-one because the sessions are short and there is a lot of internal work The Future of Ketamine Veronika is excited about people’s curiosity with Ketamine therapy and the effectivity of it Ketamine is a new and emerging field and we are figuring out who it is useful for and who it is not Veronika says that non-ordinary states are all beneficial for healing, and not having to use Ketamine (using Breathwork) is still beneficial “A big part of the healing is having a positive experience and connecting with places that feel good, having positive visions. Its supportive for our nervous system and our ability to heal.” - Veronika “When we allow the inner healing intelligence to come through, it will take us to where we need to go.” - Veronika Patients don't always need to just feel the dark stuff and the trauma, sometimes sitting with the good feelings and remembering what good feels like is a part of the healing too Kyle and Veronika were both on separate episodes of the Consciousness Podcast with Stuart Preston Podcast Episode 23 with Kyle Links Website Polaris About Veronika Gold Veronika has expertise in the treatment of trauma. Her approach is integrative and informed by Somatic Therapies, contemplative practices, and mindfulness. She also has an interest in educating others about the healing and transformational potential of non-ordinary states of consciousness.
Download In this episode, Joe talks with Matthew Remski, yoga teacher, consultant and author. In the show they talk about high demand group life and their cultic mechanisms, and the after effects of living in a high demand group setting. 3 Key Points: Matthew Remski shares his experience of spending most of his 20’s in cults, and his healing journey afterward. Cults aren't defined by their content (political, religious, psychedelic), they are defined by their element of control. Another term for a ‘cult’ is a high demand group. High demand groups can be very appealing from the outside, no one signs up for the rape, torture, or manipulative experiences that happen inside of a cult. And the after effects from high demand group life can be extreme, such as PTSD, inability to form romantic relationships, etc. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Matthew Yoga was a safe space of retreat and recuperation after being in cults He was in a cult for 3 years led by Michael Roach at the Asian Classics Institute He was in Endeavor Academy for 6 years in Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin These experiences gave him group dynamic perspective Yoga gave him somatic autonomy, and allowed him to feel himself again after the cultic nature of the groups He spent age 22-29 in these groups where we would have built some sort of career, and he didn't He became a yoga teacher and opened his own yoga studio as a part of his healing Cults People end up doing harm to themselves, or do things that they didn't sign up for An organization misrepresents itself, and presents itself as a safe haven for people who may be vulnerable for any reason High Demand Organization, along with other synonyms, are other words for ‘cult’ ‘Self Sealed’ implies that everything that happens within the group is to have the individual think it's for the ‘good’, a ‘bounded choice’ environment (saying that sexual advances or torture are a part of the development toward enlightenment, for example) The high demand group rewires a person's attachment patterns to make them ‘unattached’ Steve Hassan’s BITE model Behavior Control Information Control Thought Control Emotional Control The content of the cult doesn't matter (religious, psychedelic, political, etc), it's the element of control that is the same amongst true cults There can be political groups that aren't cults, but the element of control is what defines it as a cult Octavio Rettig and Gerry Sandoval They are perhaps responsible for multiple deaths (maybe not directly but through negligence) They use 5-MEO-DMT with abuse and malpractice Cult Impact The impact from a cult can be cognitive, labor related, relationship/family oriented, etc. Matthew says the estrangement from his family has taken over a decade to repair The relationships he had prior, has been unable to restored His identity was changed for him through social coercion “The cult takes its best possible part of you for its own agenda” - Matthew The after effects from high demand group life can be extreme, they can have PTSD, they may not be able to form romantic bonds, they may become estranged from their family, etc. Recent estimates in the US alone say that there are 8,000 high demand groups These dynamics can be found in many organizations Wild Wild Country - When a controversial cult leader builds a Utopian city in the Oregon desert, conflict with the locals escalates into a national scandal Psychotherapy Cult Psychotherapy cults look like a Buddhist or yoga cult but with different group practice techniques They will depend upon group psychotherapy that break down and humiliate members and create fear that looks like love and acceptance It includes members revealing intense secrets so they become vulnerable Practice And All Is Coming: Abuse, Cult Dynamics, And Healing In Yoga And Beyond Matthew’s book is applicable in many different community constellations His intention is to help foster critical thinking and community health Joe says that anyone in a group dynamic or especially those leading groups (such as an ayahuasca circle) need to read this book Practice And All Is Coming: Abuse, Cult Dynamics, And Healing In Yoga And Beyond Links Website About Matthew Matthew has been practicing meditation and yoga since 1996, sitting and moving with teachers from the Tibetan Buddhist, Kripalu, Ashtanga, and Iyengar streams. Along the way he has trained as a yoga therapist and an Ayurvedic consultant, and maintained a private practice in Toronto from 2007 to 2015. From 2008 through 2012, he co-directed Yoga Festival Toronto and Yoga Community Toronto, non-profit activist organizations dedicated to promoting open dialogue and accessibility. During that same period, he studied jyotiśhāstra in a small oral-culture setting at the Vidya Institute in Toronto. Matthew currently facilitates programming for yoga trainings internationally, focusing on yoga philosophy, meditation, Ayurveda, and the social psychology of practice. In all subject areas, he encourages students to explore how yoga practice can resist the psychic and material dominance of neoliberalism, and the quickening pace of environmental destruction.
Download In this episode, Joe interviews Computational Neuro-Biologist, Dr. Andrew Gallimore, one of the world’s knowledgeable researchers on DMT. In the show they discuss DMT and the possibilities of being in an extended state of DMT, such as accessing higher dimensions and communicating with intelligent entities. 3 Key Points: This reality that we are in is a lower dimensional slice of a higher dimensional structure. DMT is a technology or tool that allows us access to reach out to these higher dimensions. Andrew has developed and written about the Intravenous Infusion Model, which allows a timed and steady release of DMT to induce an extended state DMT experience. Extended state DMT hypothesizes that with enough time spent in the DMT space, the ‘map’ of the space would begin stabilize over time and you could develop a ‘life’ in the DMT space like we do in our waking life. 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Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Andrew Since age 15, he was into psychedelic drugs and altered states of consciousness He was at a friends house and was looking at a book called Alternative London and it had writings on different psychedelics but only a very short segment on DMT His fascination grew from his yearning to learn more about DMT His interest turned into academic work, learning chemistry and pharmacology and he is now into learning more about the brain itself He is currently a Computational Neuro-Biologist DMT DMT is a compound found almost everywhere in nature, highly illegal, yet highly interesting Interaction with entities are common All frames of reference are gone Andrew says that the first few times were very intense and he would come back with no way to comprehend or describe it Then after a few more times he started to see the entities and have a more stable experience with more intent Andrew describes a very vivid experience of a man in a dark robe where he asked him “show me what you've got” and he opened his mouth and Andrew woke up a if he had seen God himself. He describes it as a shattering experience These beings in the DMT experience, aren't just pointless beings in a dream, they are powerful and extremely intelligent We don't have any way to comprehend the levels of intelligence in this dimensional space, we only are ever able to experience intelligence with our human capacity for what intelligence is There is a sense that these beings are intelligent because they have been around for billions and billions of years or potentially infinitely Communicating with Intelligent Entities He calls his book the ‘textbook of the future’ “We are imprisoned in some kind of work of art” - Terence McKenna This reality is a construct or artifact of the alien intelligence or the ‘other’ “This reality that we are in is a lower dimensional slice of a higher dimensional structure. DMT is a technology or tool that allows us access to reach out to these higher dimensions” - Andrew DMT is everywhere “Nature is drenched in DMT, but it takes a high level of sophisticated intelligence to identify it, isolate it, and discover a means of using it as a tool” - Dennis McKenna “In order to communicate with these beings, we need to bring the right tools to the table” - Andrew Target Controlled Intravenous Infusion Model - using the same model for DMT as the anesthesia model It uses administration of a short acting drug using a mathematical model to control the release “We are not just passive receivers of information but we are actively constructing our world from moment to moment.” - Andrew Continuity Hypothesis of Dreaming - it says that dreaming is continuous with our waking life, the brain constructs the world when you're asleep in the same way that it does when you're awake Extended State DMT (DMTx) Our brains are constantly updating its model of reality, so if you put someone through the DMT space for months at a time, that person’s model of reality would completely shift This idea has been completely unexplored The hypothesis is that an extended time in the DMT space would begin to make that space more stable over time, the goal being to live in the DMT space as you would in this reality of waking life The measurement of DMT in the blood with Ayahuasca is 1/5th the level of DMT in the blood as a breakthrough DMT experience Andrew hasn't heard of anyone trying the Intravenous Infusion Model yet There is this space that exists one quantum away, and it is accessible by everyone (technologically, not necessarily legally) Inter-dimensional citizenship is close at hand Links Book Alien Information Theory: Psychedelic Drug Technologies and the Cosmic Game Website Instagram Twitter About Dr. Andrew Gallimore Dr. Andrew Gallimore is a computational neurobiologist, pharmacologist, chemist, and writer who has been interested in the neural basis of psychedelic drug action for many years and is the author of a number of articles and research papers on the powerful psychedelic drug, N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT), as well as the book Alien Information Theory: Psychedelic Drug Technologies and the Cosmic Game (April 2019). He recently collaborated with DMT pioneer Dr. Rick Strassman, author of DMT: The Spirit Molecule, to develop a pharmacokinetic model of DMT as the basis of a target-controlled intravenous infusion protocol for extended journeys in DMT space. His current interests focus on DMT as a tool for gating access to extradimensional realities and how this can be understood in terms of the neuroscience of information. He currently lives and works in Japan.
Download In this episode, hosts Joe and Kyle interview music artist, East Forest. Influenced by psychedelic Psilocybin sessions, Trevor Oswalt, the mind behind the project, produces soundtracks for psychedelic journeywork sessions. 3 Key Points: East Forest is a music artist and producer with a mission to create a playground of doors for listeners to open and to explore their inner space. His recent project, ‘Ram Dass’, captures the words of wisdom of Ram Dass and pairs it with sound, a project with four chapters that will release throughout 2019. Ayahuasca is connected to the Icaros, but psilocybin doesn't have a music ritual. His goal with his project, Music for Mushrooms: A soundtrack for the psychedelic practitioner, is to bring ritual to psilocybin journeywork. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About (Trevor Oswalt) East Forest East Forest is a 10 years and running music project that unfolded exploring into sharing and medicine circles and developed into a public interface Its based around introspection and tools for people to use Between retreats, podcasts and live performance, Trevor is inviting people in to assist with their journeys Ram Dass Trevor is working on a 4 part record project with Ram Dass He had the idea to do a record with spiritual teachers Ram Dass had a stroke 20 years ago, and he got Aphasia from it It would take him 15-30 minutes to answer a question, so Trevor would put it to the music and put Ram's words on the pauses in the music His wisdom and story would come alive in the songs The first time Ram Dass did psilocybin was with Timothy Leary and he said it changed his life Ram Dass talks about the ‘witness consciousness’ a viewpoint of things from the soul It is a place where you can love everyone and tell your truth and accept your dark thoughts You can't get rid of your dark thoughts, but you can learn to live with them Journeywork Soundtrack Music for Mushrooms: A soundtrack for the psychedelic practitioner Its a 5 hour playlist for journeywork that guides you and helps you do the work He made it live during his own journeywork session over a weekend the previous summer He says he is influenced by Keith Jarrett, who does long form pianist pieces Joe says trance in music is under explored Trevor describes a trip that he had where he took mushrooms and listened to his own (first) album that he made “It was as if I created this album without knowing what I was creating. My soul had tricked my ego into doing it so I could use it as a tool in that moment to transform into something new.” - Trevor There is a lot of music, science, and arts that are inspired by psychedelics He describes its a symbiotic relationship between psychedelics and music That's the thing about art, you put it out there and everyone puts their own meaning to it His first experience with psychedelics was in college with mushrooms He was outside at a festival and it was a very transcendent, blissful experience Retreats He attends retreats where there is either yoga, wilderness hikes or mainly revolved around music He does a retreat using music at Esalen with his partner, Marisa Radha Weppner They are doing another retreat in June at Esalen during the summer solstice and he will also be releasing the third chapter of the Ram Dass Record Next Esalen Retreat Sound He went to Vassar college in New York and there were pianos all over the school, he learned how to play simple songs and was shocked of how great it sounded coming to life and that fed on itself and he was hooked His first album was made in iMac with pro tools and his skills developed from there Sound quality is critical in journeywork Joe’s friend has mentioned that it's hard to make a living as a music creator, she goes by Living Light Joe also mentions a festival he attended listening to Reed Mathis and the Electric Beethoven They went on a 20-30 minute talk about how the music is a ritual Kyle used to lead some hikes, once was with Trevor Hall and it has gotten more common to collaborate these experiences with music Live Music During Ayahuasca, the shamans sing the Icaros, and the song is a part of the ritual No one uses Ayahuasca recreationally, the ceremony has never been detached from the drug With psilocybin, in the western culture, it's almost always only been used recreationally His goal was to create a new musical tradition that would speak to our western years and make sense to us without taking from another religion and putting it to our ritual Links Website About East Forest East Forest is an American Ambient/Electronic/Contemporary Classical/Indie Pop artist from Portland, Oregon, United States. The project was created by Trevor Oswalt who derived "East Forest" from the German translation of his last name. To date he has released eight full-length albums and six EPs. East Forest’s newest release, “RAM DASS” is a full length album releasing in collaboration with the acclaimed spiritual teacher. Covering topics such as dark thoughts, nature, the soul and so much more, these songs are full of inspiration. The album will release in four “chapters” throughout 2019, culminating in a full length release on August 9, 2019.
Download In this Bonus episode The Teafaerie and Joe Moore get into lots of great topics. Enjoy! ! The Teafaerie micro-bio(me) The Teafaerie is a writer, flow arts teacher, ruespieler, toy inventor, app designer, street performer, party promoter, and superhero. erowid.org/columns/teafaerie Some links Event in Ran Rafael, CA w Tam Integration Tickets Mapping the Source on Erowid Carrying the Light - Audio Telepathetic - https://www.erowid.org/columns/teafaerie/2013/02/21/telepathetic/ The Teafaerie on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/flowfaerie/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/ruespieler
Download In this episode, Joe interviews Jesse Gould, founder of Heroic Hearts Project, a non-profit doing psychedelic work with veterans. They discuss the difficulties veterans face finding healing from their PTSD in the current landscape. 3 Key Points: Heroic Hearts is a project geared toward raising funds and providing resources for veterans to receive healing through Ayahuasca and other psychedelics. Our current landscape of social media and government make it extremely difficult to receive donations and get veterans the help that they need. Heroic Hearts is trying to bridge the gap between PTSD and access to healing. Veterans tend to feel alone in their symptoms from their experiences, so creating community and an integration plan are both really important in the healing process. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Jessie Founder of Heroic Hearts Project He found the healing potential of Ayahuasca after a week long retreat after struggling with severe anxiety after combat deployments with the army He was born in Santa Fe, New Mexico and grew up in Florida Jesse graduated with an Economics Degree from Cornell Heroic Hearts Heroic Hearts is trying to be the voice of veterans in the psychedelic community There are very few options through the department of veteran affairs The organization helps raise money to provide opportunity for veterans to access treatment such as Ayahuasca retreats PTSD and Addiction affect the veteran community more than the general public Aligning the veteran voice with the psychedelic cause is a powerful force for change Integration is so important, both to understand what you're trying to achieve (beforehand) and stay on that path (afterward) Jessie says they work very hard to make sure vets are having true healing through their Ayahuasca experiences PTSD People have a common misconception around PTSD that there are these constant traumatic outbreaks, and although that can happen, there are so many people living their day to day lives and you'd never know they have PTSD but they still suffer from it PTSD doesn't always come from severely traumatic events like war, it can come from other things like childhood abuse or sexual assault SSRIs numb the pain but don't help with any actual healing Donations It's really hard to get donations Heroic Hearts provided financial scholarships so far to about 15 people They are doing a retreat in May for another 7 veterans The received a grant from Ubiome to study the effects of Ayahuasca on the gut microbiome There is a strong link between the stomach biome and mood They are coming up with do it yourself marketing campaigns to help individuals raise their own money, setting people up for success In a place where it's easier to get money, it's also harder to get money because so many people are creating personal fundraisers for their dog, etc. There are more and more large organizations helping smaller companies like Heroic Hearts with research Community Breathwork can be used as a helpful bridge between patients and their PTSD Veterans tend to trust veterans more They tend to feel alone so creating community among vets is really important Psychedelics and ceremony really help vets transition out of feeling alone Jesse says he plans on creating local meetups and groups for vets He tends to send vets on retreats with friends or other vets from the same community so when they return from their retreat they have a built-in community to come back to Heroic Hearts Project There is an application for vets There are many options to donate, all funds raised go right to the vets “Why is there no government funding going to the biggest breakthrough in PTSD research through the MAPS MDMA therapy? Not one cent of government money has gone to that.” - Jesse “Why are we having to send veterans to other countries to get the mental health that they deserve?” - Jesse Links Website About Jesse Gould Jesse founded Heroic Hearts Project after attending an Ayahuasca retreat in Iquitos, Peru on February 2017. During the week long retreat he instantly saw the healing potential of the drink and knew that it could be a powerful tool in healing the mental struggles of his fellow veterans. Jesse was born in Santa Fe, New Mexico and grew up in New Smyrna Beach, FL. In 2009 he graduated from Cornell University with a degree in Economics. After working in investment banking for a short time he enlisted in the Army and became an Airborne Ranger for four years and three combat deployments. Most recently, he worked in finance in Tampa, FL After struggling with severe anxiety for many years, he finally decided to go to an ayahuasca retreat which has had a profoundly positive effect on his anxiety and daily life.'I know what it is like to be at the mercy of uncontrollable elements in your own head. I also know the extreme relief of finally having these elements under control. Ayahuasca provided this. We have the ability to help thousands who are suffering but we let politics and ignorance get in the way. This is unacceptable. I started this foundation because the therapy works, I will risk what I have to ensure my fellow veterans get the treatment they deserve and a new chance at life.'
Download In this episode Kyle sits down with a close friend in the psychedelic space, Lucas Jackson. They have shared many experiences such as Near Death Experiences, leading breathwork workshops, and other similarities. They cover topics such as the Near Death Experience, Ayahuasca experience, Breathwork tools, and accepting death, finding meaning and integrating these exceptional experiences. 3 Key Points: Exceptional experiences are not always euphoric and light, they can also be dark and cathartic and make it difficult to transition back into ‘real life’. Lucas explains his Ayahuasca experience as his darkest and hardest. He felt alone with no help, no one to talk to to help understand it, he felt as if he actually died. But this gave him a realization and acceptance of death. The key to making it through and putting understanding to the dark experiences is having the right tools, such as a community of understanding people, practices such as breathwork, yoga, meditation and just simply coming back to the breath. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes About Lucas Lucas' interest in psychedelics started in high school, the books that he read then were influential He had a near death experience at 19 He came down with a lung issue and was in the hospital for 2 months and in and out of different stages of consciousness After that experience his interest for psychedelics and breathwork grew Lucas describes it not totally as a single NDE but more as being so close to death for an extended period of time He says it wasn't mystical and great, coming back to ‘real life’ had some dark qualities Revisiting a Dark Past Lucas says he wrote stuff down when he was in the hospital with a breathing tube and couldn't talk and one day he went through it all and it was very dark and cathartic When he went through and read his past writings, he said that he felt sympathy for the ‘him’ that wrote it He says it is hard to remember the person he was before his experience and illness Breathwork After he dropped out of school, he started up a farm in Vermont and then toward the end of that he started to feel restless and there were synchronicities that led him to breathwork He heard that Stan Grof was going to be doing a talk at a local bookshop and he met Lenny and Elizabeth Gibson He ended up doing breathwork training in New York He explains the experience as more powerful than what he would have imagined He said he wanted to tell everyone about it after the first breathwork experience Kyle says its common with any exceptional experience, people want to run and tell the world Lucas says the sitting was just as powerful as the breathing It's not often that you have someone sit at your side for 2-3 hours giving you full attention Lucas says that his GTT training was supposed to take 2 years and he thought he was going to get through it in 2 years no problem and he is in his 5th year doing the program and he loves the pace Kyle says that part of the training in breathwork is doing your own work Lucas says with this kind of work, you don't get through it and you're done, It's a continuous process Robert Anton Wilson’s ‘maybe’ logic helps Lucas with being okay with not knowing He had a few experiences where he went through a ‘death’ feeling, and then he would let go and blast through this ‘light’ and then feelings oneness and wholeness Ayahuasca Lucas went through the ‘death’ experience and thought it was actually real, he felt complete void and nothingness That experience haunted him for years His ayahuasca experience was really about the purge, letting go of absolutely everything James Fadiman The remoteness of the experience was what he was seeking, being so far removed from everything he had known, everything that made him comfortable The shaman was known for his potency of the brew There is no consistency among the dosage He felt very alone during the experience, he had no help, but it was almost special because it taught him that he is alone always anyway so there was some comfortability with the realization The shaman didn't speak English and the messages that he received through the translator didn't make him feel completely safe about his experience It took him over 3 years of chewing on the content and the questions before feeling somewhat okay Lucas’ advice to anyone wanting to do this is ‘take off, make time for this, you'll need more time than you think’ “I believe that there is a collective pool to tap into, where you're processing the suffering of all, and once you hit that, it's an abyss and you have to surrender. It can be so freeing.” - Lucas Spiritual Emergence Lucas says there wasn't any day or event where he felt like he was going to have to go to the hospital or harm anybody, but it's because he has the correct tools and great community For him, the first experience was fun and exciting and then you want to do more and then you get into the work and the hard stuff "What is, waking up?" - Lucas There's the Ram Dass idea that the tool will fall away when its usefulness has been exhausted Lucas says the tool is having a daily practice, and for him its a breathing practice Grof’s framework was a lifesaver for Lucas “What are you going to do with the reality you are presented with?” - a quote from The Truman Show movie “Even if this is all an illusion, why not make this the best illusion, the best dream?” - Lucas How are we showing up to the world after something so exceptional? Final Thoughts What is this world for? Lucas mentions an Alan Watts video, it says life is like a dance, there is no goal, and then after the dance we sit down “What is the particular thing that we are trying to achieve? General improvement of all humanity sounds like a good goal. Hopefully psychedelics can be a huge tool in moving towards that.” -Lucas Lucas says that he isn't a therapist, but he is available to talk with someone if they may need it. Having an open and welcoming therapist is great, but if they've never had an exceptional experience, it's helpful to talk to someone who has, therapist or not. About Lucas Jackson Lucas has spent his life wandering through inner and outer landscapes, collecting experiences, and sharing those experiences with those closest to him. His outer wanderings have led him to working with earth and plants around the world, including starting a biodynamic/permaculture food forest in Central Vermont. Lucas has also spent time working with people who were experiencing extreme states of consciousness while at Soteria-Vermont and while volunteering with The Zendo Project. The galleries of his inner world are made up of psychedelic musings, astrological insights, and various constellations of esoteric traditions. Lucas holds degrees in Environmental Science and Psychology and is currently pursuing an MA in Religious Studies. Lucas can be reached through his email address at email@example.com as well as on Instagram @biodellic. He is available for astrological readings and is happy to meet others interested in discussing the topics covered throughout this episode of the podcast.
Download In this special interview, Joe and Kyle sit down with Theologian, John B. Cobb Jr., referred to as the Godfather of American Theology. They recorded with John at the conference they all attended in California, on how exceptional experience can help save the world. They cover a range of topics inspired from Alfred Whitehead’s teachings and the promising applications of Whitehead’s thoughts in the area of ecological civilization and environmental ethics pioneered by John Cobb Jr. 3 Key Points: Process thinking argues that reality consists of processes rather than material objects, and that thinking this way is similar to the teachings of a psychedelic experience. It is hoped for and believed that exceptional experiences can help save the world. Whitehead's process philosophy argues that there is urgency in coming to see the world as a web of interrelated processes of which we are integral parts, so that all of our choices and actions have consequences for the world around us. Certain curriculum, education systems and Universities are not helping us to see the value of our world. A full systems change is needed and hopefully psychedelics, exceptional experiences and process thinking can help with that. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes Process Thought Alfred North Whitehead The senses heighten connection, but we shouldn't rely only senses for our experiences The label that can we give to the 'most fundamental relationship' is any 'happening' What's happening when we listen to music? We aren't hearing one tone after another tone, we are hearing the music as a whole piece Whitehead calls the fundamental relationship of inclusion, a 'prehension' How one moment leads into another moment If the world is made up of prehensions, then in any given moment, what is prehended? The boundary between conscious and unconscious experience is fuzzy. Whitehead calls the relatedness to the past, physical prehensions. But we also prehend, potentialities. It is being experienced as potential not as actual. Whitehead thinks this is present in very elementary matters. Whitehead says that waves of vibration are a very large part of the world we live in Whitehead believes that without some type of variation from moment to moment, that nothing really happens He wrote a lot on relativity and very little about quantum David Bohm He was very process oriented He wanted to change our language into using words that mean something is ‘happening’ versus using nouns that say that something ‘is’ “If you only have potentiality and too little grounded in actuality, you better be careful. If you don't have the potentiality, then you live in a deterministic universe” - John “Does Whitehead relate the potentialities to his ideas about intuition?” Intuition can be of both pure potentials and about other people A lot of paranormal experiences are not supernatural Just because someone has seen something or done something, it doesn't mean that it's true. There is plenty of illusion. [caption id="attachment_3637" align="alignleft" width="300"] T-shirts available on our store[/caption] Complex Societies An important feature of Whitehead is to distinguish complex society Panexperientialism is ‘the view that if evolution of humans goes all the way down to subatomic particles, then human ‘experience’ by deduction must have originated at the subatomic level, which implies that not just humans but individual cells, individual molecules, individual atoms, and even individual subatomic particles, such as photons or electrons, incorporate a capacity for ‘feeling’ or degree of subjective inferiority.' There might be in-deterministic qualities in individual entities From a Whiteheadian point of view, contemporary physics would be almost universally valid if the entire world were made up entirely of physical feelings, feelings of actual occasions, ‘what is’. “What would be opposed to physical feelings?” Conceptual feelings, feelings of potentials He thinks there are feelings of potential in every actual occasion “The attempt to make standard physics apply to the quantum world are a total failure.” -John “The attempt to make standard physics apply to the human experience is the task of the Neuroscientists. They think that the subjective experience has a causal role to play in the world.” -John It's more committed to metaphysics than it is to empirical study “Do you think what's going on in the mind, say neurotransmitters or electrical activity firing, that is creating this reality, or the experience, is having an influence on the neurochemistry?” John says that the psyche plays a role Scientists who are busy engineering genetic change, tell us purpose plays no role in genetic change “What do you mean by no purpose in genetic change?” Purpose cannot have a causal effect in the Cartesian world They say ‘I know that my purposes are completely the result of mechanical relations between my neurons’ “Could you elaborate on the definition of actual occasions?” The psyche is a consistent series of actual occasions Its what kinds of things are in and of themselves, ‘actual’ It's in the distinction of things that can be divided up into other entities An actual occasion cannot be divisible into other actual occasions Like an atom, it is divisible, but dividing it does not keep it from actually existing For Whitehead, an actual occasion is the basic unit of actuality Its an alternative to a ‘substance’ way of viewing When we look at other living beings, animals with brains and such, we assume they have a psychic life John thinks that plants have some kind of unified experience Some people have a feeling about a tree, that it's not just a bunch of cells interacting “It's hard for me to think that a stone is an experiencing entity, I think the molecules though are.” - John “I’m sure that cells are influenced by the emotions of people” -John Having a particular conceptuality does not define how things are going to map out “This world view seems very psychedelic.” Among quantum physicists, Whitehead’s name is known and appreciated. It may mean that physics as a whole might adopt an organic model than just mechanistic one The common sense in this is that our knowledge of each other is not just in visual and auditory clues, but people have been told so long that it is “What else would it be informed by if not by visual and auditory cues?” Just by our immediate experience of each other If you go into a room, there is an immediate climate there. You can tell when you walk into a room full of angry people. Ivan Illich's Book on Deschooling Society (Open Forum S) “What would be your vision of an education system if its not working right now?” The one that Matthew Segal teaches in CIIS are examples of a different education system The Great Books program needs revision. It's only been the great western books. John hopes they have incorporated great books from other parts of the world There are parts of different educational systems that are better than what we have “If I had an opportunity to create a school, it would be a school that teaches ecological civilization because a healthy human survival is a goal that ought not to be regarded as an eccentric and marginal one, but regarded as what all we human beings ought to be getting behind collectively, together. And if you have a school for that, the curriculum would be quite varied, but the production and consumption and sharing of food should be a very central part of it.” -John Capitalism has ignored much of reality John says creating a curriculum is not his role, his role is deconstruction because he thinks what is going on now is absurd “Enlightenment is the worst curse of humanity, we have been enlightened into not believing all kinds of things. The disappearance of subject from the world of actuality. If that's enlightenment, then I don't want to be enlightened.” - John Language John thinks we need a lot of reflection on the language we use The questions that are the most important are the ones rarely asked “One of my favorite parts of Whitehead is the reframing of language, our words carry inertia that we are not aware of” - Joe Whitehead Word Book: A Glossary with Alphabetical Index to Technical Terms in Process and Reality (Toward Ecological Civilzation) (Volume 8) The reason there are 36 universities for process studies and 0 in the United States, is because in the US, process isn't as fundamental as substance Kyle Shares his Near Death Experience Kyle got in a snowboarding accident, ruptured his spleen and lost about 5 pints of blood It became mystical when he was in the MRI machine and he was standing on one side of the room with the doctors and in his body at the same time There was an orb of light, and an external voice or ‘experience’ that said “you're going home, back to the stars where you came from, this is just a transition, the more you relax into it, the easier it will be.” Kyle describes it as a blissful experience, but he had a hard time integrating it back into his life. Whitehead has done a remarkable job to describe process, and exceptional experience and putting a language to it Joe says that Whitehead’s work has helped put the psychedelic experience into words “Do you recall the first time you heard something that made you interested in the impact of psychedelics?” Lenny Gibson was probably one of the first people that opened his eyes to the positive uses “Today, it would be remarkable if 10% of the world's population survived without civilization” -John He is confident that there are good things that come from psychedelics He says Whitehead has made him understand the changes that might make us behave in responsible ways, so he doesn't feel the necessity of having a psychedelic experiences “What kind of changes?” We have to change from our substance thinking to process thinking We need to shift from thinking that every individual is self-contained, we are all products of our relationships with each other. In the Whiteheadian view, any individual is, the many becoming one. To be an individual is being a part of everything. Links Website Process Theology: An Introductory Exposition Other books by John Cobb Jr. A Christian Natural Theology, Second Edition: Based on the Thought of Alfred North Whitehead Jesus' Abba: The God Who Has Not Failed Grace & Responsibility: A Wesleyan Theology for Today For Our Common Home: Process-Relational Responses to Laudato Si' About John B. Cobb Jr. John B. Cobb, Jr., Ph.D, is a founding co-director of the Center for Process Studies and Process & Faith. He has held many positions, such as Ingraham Professor of Theology at the School of Theology at Claremont, Avery Professor at the Claremont Graduate School, Fullbright Professor at the University of Mainz, Visiting Professor at Vanderbilt, Harvard Divinity, Chicago Divinity Schools. His writings include: Christ in a Pluralistic Age; God and the World; For the Common Good. Co-winner of Grawemeyer Award of Ideas Improving World Order.
Download In this episode, Joe gets on the mic to chat about some current events in the psychedelic space such as the recent passing of psychedelic icon Ralph Metzner, the Psilocybin decriminalization initiatives in Denver and now Oakland, and psychedelic use in the Military. 3 Key Points: Psychedelic Icon, Ralph Metzner passed away on March 14th, 2019. He had a remarkable career and published a ton of books around psychedelics in his time. A recent study found that a single dose of Psilocybin can enhance creative thinking and empathy for up to 7 days after use. Activists are planning an initiative to decriminalize Psilocybin in Oakland. Denver will vote on decriminalization on the May 7th ballot. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Get Educated Navigating Psychedelics or Navigating Psychedelics: 5-Week Live Online Course Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes Ralph Metzner Ralph Metzner passed away on March 14th, 2019 He was a part of the Leary, Alpert trio Ralph was a psychologist, writer and researcher who participated in psychedelic research in the 60’s. He had a remarkable career and published a ton of books: The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead Maps of consciousness;: I Ching, tantra, tarot, alchemy, astrology, actualism The Unfolding Self: Varieties of Transformative Experience Green Psychology: Transforming Our Relationship to the Earth Sacred Mushroom of Visions: Teonanácatl: A Sourcebook on the Psilocybin Mushroom Sacred Vine of Spirits: Ayahuasca The Expansion of Consciousness (Ecology of Consciousness) Alchemical Divination: Accessing your spiritual intelligence for healing and guidance (The Ecology of Consciousness) Ecology of Consciousness: The Alchemy of Personal, Collective, and Planetary Transformation Overtones and Undercurrents: Spirituality, Reincarnation, and Ancestor Influence in Entheogenic Psychotherapy Searching for the Philosophers’ Stone: Encounters with Mystics, Scientists, and Healers The Toad and the Jaguar a Field Report of Underground Research on a Visionary Medicine: Bufo Alvarius and 5-Methoxy-Dimethyltryptamine Psilocybin and Creativity A single dose of Psilocybin enhances creative thinking and empathy for up to 7 days after use It was a 55 participant study in the Netherlands Decriminalize Psilocybin in Oakland Activists plan to decriminalize Psilocybin in Oakland Decriminalize Psilocybin in Denver It will be voted on, on May 7th Joe believes all drugs should be decriminalized We need to have a compassionate drug policy Placing people in jail for non-violent offences tears apart families We should not favor one drug over another in terms of decriminalization Use of Psychedelics to do War More Effectively Harm Reduction Joe mentions conversation he had with a friend of the show He mentioned that Ayahuasca sometimes has mold on it Ayahuasca is labor intensive to make, so they make it once and then it grows mold Then people come and drink the mold infested Aya and it can make a person more sick than they need to be “If you have the option to be more safe, should you be?” If we have less harm and less deaths in the drug world over time, in the next 5 or 6 years we are going to see huge benefits with these substances Staying out of jail, not dying, and by being safer with drugs we have more of a chance to influence policy and make these substances and drug checking more available for the future culture About Joe Joe studied philosophy in New Hampshire, where he earned his B.A.. After stumbling upon the work of Stanislav Grof during his undergraduate years, Joe began participating in Holotropic Breathwork workshops in Vermont in 2003. Joe helped facilitate Holotropic and Transpersonal Breathwork workshops while he spent his time in New England. He is now working in the software industry as well as hosting a few podcasts. Joe now coordinates Dreamshadow Transpersonal Breathwork workshops, in Breckenridge, Colorado.
Download In this episode Kyle and Joe sit down and discuss Esketamine, a new FDA approved drug that is a derivative of Ketamine. They invite quotes from professionals who have experience with generic Ketamine and to voice their opinions. 3 Key Points: Janssen Pharmaceutica has announced an FDA approved derivative of Ketamine, Esketamine, called Spravato. The new drug is facing critique on its pricing, route of administration as well as functional differences when compared to the traditional, generic Ketamine. Joe and Kyle invite professionals in the field who have experience with generic Ketamine to voice their opinions, hopes and concerns about Spravato. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes Esketamine Janssen Pharmaceutica, a Johnson & Johnson Subsidiary has created a derivative of Ketamine called Esketamine and has gone through the whole FDA approval process There has been some concern about a big pharmaceutical company, Janssen coming in and creating a ‘new molecule’ and introducing an FDA approved ‘psychedelic’ to make generic Ketamine obsolete Pricing There is going to be price differences based on routes of administration (Intravenous vs lozenges) $1.59 at 100 milligrams (93% bioavailable when administered IM) The list price of Esketamine through Janssen will be $590-$885 per treatment session based on the dosage taken which will vary between patients During the first month of therapy, that would add up to $4720-$6785 After the first month, maintenance therapy could range from $2300-$3500 Joe says Ketamine should be cheap Scott Shannon Scott Shannon, Director of the Wholeness Center Joe reads a quote from Scott that says that the new Janssen Esketamine product is overpriced, the research data showed that only 2 out of 5 studies demonstrated effectiveness, and generic Ketamine is much more effective and cheaper than Esketamine Insurance Insurance might cover Esketamine Kyle says he hasn't heard of too many generic Ketamine sessions being covered by Insurance Jessica Katzman The approval of Esketamine by the FDA is controversial based on the route of administration, cost and functional differences Only 8-50% of the Esketamine dose is effective Some of the benefits of Esketamine are it's legitimizing of the existing generic Ketamine use as well as an Insurance overview of Ketamine and Esketamine via cost analysis Esketamine is not new, it has been around for a long time Dr. Matt Brown Physicians have been able to provide Ketamine for decades Janssen was able to get the FDA to approve literally half of what generic Ketamine is There are a lot of unknowns for Esketamine yet, it hasn't even hit the shelves yet Kyle says Ketamine has been used to bring patients internally, like most psychedelic sessions Kyle also says Ketamine is more dissociating, where classic tryptamines like psilocybin are more activating Contraindications Hypertension, stroke, intracranial mass/hemorrhage and cautions like pregnancy, substance abuse, etc. It's pretty available in the underground, so it could have the potential for risk of abuse Recreational experiences have the opportunity to be the most therapeutic and eye-opening experience Audiobook - Function of Reason by Alfred North Whitehead "I need not continue the discussion. The case is too clear for elaboration. Yet the trained body of physiologists under the influence of the ideas germane to their successful methodology entirely ignore the whole mass of adverse evidence. We have here a colossal example of anti-empirical dogmatism arising from a successful methodology. Evidence which lies outside the method simply does not count.We are, of course, reminded that the neglect of this evidence arises from the fact that it lies outside the scope of the methodology of the science. That method consists in tracing the persistence of the physical and chemical principles throughout physiological operations." - quote from Function of Reason Opinions Joe invites listeners to ask questions and leave a message of opinions and such (either anonymously or using your name) Google voice 970-368-3133 About Kyle Kyle’s interest in exploring non-ordinary states of consciousness began when he was 16-years-old when he suffered a traumatic snowboarding accident. Waking up after having a near-death experience changed Kyle’s life. Since then, Kyle has earned his B.A. in Transpersonal Psychology, where he studied the healing potential of non-ordinary states of consciousness by exploring shamanism, plant medicine, Holotropic Breathwork, and the roots/benefits of psychedelic psychotherapy. Kyle has co-taught two college-level courses. One of the courses Kyle created as a capstone project, “Stanislav Grof’s Psychology of Extraordinary Experiences,” and the other one which he co-created, “The History of Psychedelics.” Kyle is currently pursuing his M.S. in clinical mental health counseling with an emphasis in somatic psychology. Kyle’s clinical background in mental health consists of working with at-risk teenagers in crisis and with individuals experiencing an early-episode of psychosis. Kyle also facilitates Transpersonal Breathwork workshops. About Joe Joe studied philosophy in New Hampshire, where he earned his B.A.. After stumbling upon the work of Stanislav Grof during his undergraduate years, Joe began participating in Holotropic Breathwork workshops in Vermont in 2003. Joe helped facilitate Holotropic and Transpersonal Breathwork workshops while he spent his time in New England. He is now working in the software industry as well as hosting a few podcasts. Joe now coordinates Dreamshadow Transpersonal Breathwork workshops, in Breckenridge, Colorado.
Download This is an exclusive interview with Elizabeth Gibson from Dreamshadow, a segment from the Psychedelics Today, Navigating Psychedelics Masterclass, Lessons on Self Care and Integration. 3 Key Points: A common mistake people make is thinking all of the work happens in the session, when really only a portion of the work happens in the session, and the rest happens afterward during integration. It's important not to isolate yourself after this work, it's important to search out people who will be understanding of your experience. Elizabeth compares journeywork to planting a seed. You can't grow a whole plant in one session, you simply plant the seed. You determine how it grows by how you water and cultivate it (integrate it), it's a process that can't be rushed. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Trip Journal Integration Workbook Show Notes Integration Integration is one of the most important aspects of work with extraordinary experiences “How do you take material that's come up and bring it into your everyday life? How do you realize the benefit of the intense work that you've done?” - Elizabeth Elizabeth's Background Elizabeth has been facilitating Breathwork for 23 years She was a part of MDMA trials in the 80’s when it was legal Elizabeth helped edit the MDMA Assisted Psychotherapy Manual Integrating the Experience A common mistake that people make is thinking all of the work is in the session itself, but really that's only half of the work. The other half of the work happens after leaving the session, the integration. Integration is about being more present with ourselves in every moment, not just yearning to get back to the state of the session The long term subtle changes that happen over time are the most important Stan Grof says that aerobic activity like swimming, running, etc is a way of connecting with energy and feelings that operate at deeper levels Elizabeth says she likes drawing immediately after an experience to work with it symbolically, and then journaling a day or two later once she is able to verbalize her experience “Just do it before you think too much about it” Community Benefits It's important not to isolate yourself after this work “The principle of community is really important. We can't do this work completely on our own.” - Elizabeth We are all the descendants of successful tribes It's important to search out people who will be understanding of your experience If there is somatic stuff happening in the body, it is a good idea to do some body work, such as deep tissue massage On the other side, if we are holding the space for others who went through a session, it's important for us to make ourselves available for them Just to talk and to be heard is so important on its own Email follow up is tricky because a person can pour their heart out or be very vague or not get deep in their email The email follow up method is also tricky because of difficult response time and interpretation of responses Facebook groups can be a helpful way of finding the others and creating community to be able to reach out to understanding individuals Elizabeth says it's like the analogy of seeds being planted, you decide how you want it to grow and how you cultivate it Acting too quickly after an experience isn't always the best idea, its best to keep it slow Journeywork Tips Safe setting Access to people who will be able to support you afterwards Links website About Elizabeth Elizabeth Gibson, M.S., holds a bachelor’s degree in literature and a master’s degree in biology from The University of Tulsa. She has completed Herbert Benson’s Clinical Training in Mind/Body Medicine at Harvard Medical School. Previously she worked as a consultant at Arthur D. Little, Inc., and Radian Corporation in the areas of environmental protection and food research. She is a writer, editor and homemaker with interests in environmental literacy, yoga, music and gardening. Elizabeth is the editor of Stanislav Grof ’s The Ultimate Journey: Consciousness and the Mystery of Death and a contributor to the teaching manual MDMA-Assisted Psychotherapy for the Treatment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, both published by the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies. For the past 12 years, she has been responsible for local news for the Town of Pawlet, and from 2008 – 2014 she was the editor of the weekly environment section for the Rutland Herald and Montpelier Times Argus newspapers in Vermont.
Download In this episode, Joe holds conversation with Dr. Michael Sapiro, Clinical Psychologist out of Boise, Idaho. They cover topics surrounding how meditation and mindfulness intersect with psychedelia as well as psychic ability, altered states and integration. 3 Key Points: Meditation and psychedelics have a lot of overlap such as ego dissolution and unity. Dr. Sapiro believes that meditation and mindfulness bring personal awakening in order to create collective transformation. Both meditation and psychedelics are the most beneficial when they are integrated into our waking life and when we use our experiences to help others and our planet. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Dr. Michael Sapiro Attended John F Kennedy University where he received his PsyD He focused on meditation research at the Institute of Noetic Sciences He is from Chicago, IL He spent time in Thailand for the Peace Corps A lot of his experience was from his time in the Bay Area There is more data coming out about awareness based meditative states and psychedelic states and how they relate subjectively to each other Dr. Sapiro’s Practice Transformational Psychology, Integration based He integrates the Buddhist Dharma, Western Psychology, Non-dual meditation and philosophy, and Noetic Sciences into his practice Michael sees 20-28 patients a week Kashmir Shaivism It's a dissolving type of experience, Its a non-dualistic style of tradition The non-dual tradition helps one just be “whole and unbroken” and focus on the present and now He does the human work in the Buddhism Dharma style, and the spiritual work with the restful piece of being in the now, the focus being integration Vision His vision has been on enhancing personal awakening in order to create collective transformation He wants to help communities and states and nations to transform via individual awakening He has worked with law enforcement agents, military vets, community members, a variety of people at different levels all the way from grounding to stability to thriving He always ends each Sangha with saying 'take this work and apply it to your neighbors' A Sangha is a buddhist community of monks/individuals in support of each other “People have such a deep connection to nature when you come out of the psychedelic experience. You start taking care of the environment differently than before went you went in.” - Michael “We now have data on greater environmental concern and stewardship after the psychedelic experience.” - Joe People who are consciously interacting with things outside of themselves have a greater care for those things. “If I am hurting the world I am hurting myself.” - Michael “Hopefully one of the bigger things that come out of the psychedelic movement are greater levels of environmentalism and global stewardship” - Joe The psychedelic movement helps us see systems that are made up are a part of our tangible reality and our responsibility to take care of the people in the systems We can use psychedelics and meditation, and integration from these experiences, to see how we can operate in these systems and help people find resources in these systems Dr. Sapiro’s Work He teaches as Esalen Institute leading workshops One of his colleagues has reached over 200,000 people with their work since 2011 His goal isn't to be the lead, but the support of leaders, especially women because he feels the need for a balance and the need for more female leaders Michael says he loves surrounding himself around ‘world-changers’ and loves doing anything to be around them and learn from them Boise, Idaho Michael says its surprisingly conscious state Its very community oriented There are 6-7 Buddhist Sanghas, groups of dedicated folks to their practice There is a lot of nature and nature is Dharma, it is the teacher Psychic Ability and Altered States It's very normal for humans to have psychic experiences All of us have access to these states, we just have to tap into them Michael encourages people to accept and cultivate these experiences It may be better to accept these experiences than to deny them There is a difference between energetic flow and psychosis Crazy Wise is a documentary that touches on spiritual emergence issues The Overlap of Psychedelic States and Meditation The Institute of Noetic Sciences had a program called The Future of Meditation Research They found in the research that they were only looking at reducing anxiety and depression, the clinical applications But they found that more than half of the people experienced psychic phenomenon, mystical experiences, terrifying experiences, the things that overlap/correlate with psychedelic experiences Both meditative and psychedelic experiences point to ego dissolution and unity at the same time Ego and anxiety both have wisdom in them, we don't want to lose them completely, but learn how to balance them and use them wisely “We need to be mindful of how we integrate what we learn in the psychedelic/meditative state into our waking life” - Michael “How can meditation and psychedelics lend themselves to being the best version of ourselves while committing to others well being? That is what I am most passionate about.” - Michael David Trellen and Willoughby Britton - Trauma Sensitive Mindfulness “If we are choosing to be more compassionate to our fellow humans and the earth, let’s not tough it out, let's help each other.” - Joe “Let’s do the work that it takes to heal it.” - Michael Be open, be curious. What might meditation be able to bring to personal awakening in order to create collective transformation? Links website About Dr. Michael Sapiro Michael Sapiro, PsyD, is a psychologist, meditation teacher, and former Buddhist monk. He lives and works on the frontier of spirituality, social justice, science, and psychology. He earned his Doctorate in Clinical Psychology from John F. Kennedy University and holds a Master’s in English Studies. He is a consultant with the Institute of Noetic Sciences and is on faculty at Esalen Institute. Michael is the founder of Maitri House Yoga and was trained for 20 years in both traditional Yoga philosophy and lifestyle, and Buddhist meditation. In his treatment he integrates Western psychological interventions with meditation and awareness practices. He finds the greatest healing comes from living a life of presence, vulnerability, and awareness. At Sage he will fully integrate Yoga philosophy and life-style within the treatment.
Download In this episode Joe interviews, Richie Ogulnick, a long time Ibogaine provider and enthusiast. During the show they discuss Ibogaine and Addiction-Interruption Therapy. 3 Key Points: Ibogaine is a compound found in the Tabernanthe Iboga plant that has been used to treat opioid and other addictions. Ibogaine has shown to have the power to reset the biochemistry of a person to a non-addictive state, and reduce/eliminate the agonizing symptoms of withdrawal, allowing a person to heal from an addiction. The combination of Ibogaine, relocation and integration therapy is the best scenario for healing someone and preventing them from relapse. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Richie In 1989 he was Introduced to Ibogaine while visiting family and friends in New York Its an alkaloid extracted from a West African shrub He was ready to fall in love with doing something with purpose He came across an article about a corporation called NDA created by Howard Lotsof When Howard (a heroine addict) was 19 years old, a chemist gave him a dose of Ibogaine A few days later, he realized he “wasn't afraid” and then he realized he wasn't having opioid withdrawals In “Needle Park”, a park in New York, heroin addicts come there for free needles Richie’s dream was to dose all the addicts with Ibogaine, and that only a quarter of them would show up to Needle Park because they were not addicted anymore He brought 13 grams of Ibogaine back from Africa with him He received a chapter from a book (Healing Journey) called Ibogaine: Fantasy and Reality by Claudio Naranjo People were coming from all over the world to receive Ibogaine treatments It was 15 years where he conducted over 750 psycho-spiritual and addiction-interception sessions underground Upon training people, those people would then go and open their own treatment centers in Mexico, abroad, etc. What is Iboga Tabernanthe Iboga is the plant Ibogaine Hydrochloride is the best product to use to interrupt addiction and symptoms of withdrawal from an addiction Ibogaine is safe as long as someone has had an EKG that has been looked at very closely for any red flags Other than cardiac risk and previous suicidality, schizophrenia, psychotic breaks there aren't many more threats to being treated with Ibogaine The Miracle Compound “There is a miracle compound in ibogaine. There is nothing I have come across on the planet that can reset the biochemistry to a pre-addictive state, that can bring a person to make a choice without the agony of the symptoms of withdrawal.” - Richie There is a 36 hour window where a person has a life review, what brought them to the addictive process in the first place, the person's willingness and maturity It creates a symbiotic relationship for a person to explore themselves with insight Relapse is possible if they don't work on the reason they became addicted in the first place It's the witness component that Ibogaine delivers that helps people process through their addiction Ibogaine as a molecule has a really pharmacologically complex, alien like structure Relapse Justin Hoffman, a DJ in Las Vegas runs Holistic House, a facility where people get to relax and get out of their previous context for a week or two after treatment If a family wanted to help out their family member who is addicted to heroine, Richie says that he asks the family about relocation because it's a big part of reducing relapse He also says that finding a proper therapist to help afterward is huge too The combination of Ibogaine, relocation and integration therapy is the best scenario for healing someone and preventing them from relapse Big Pharma’s Impact Joe says how he got a message from Dana Biel, talking about how the harm reduction movement has been manipulated by the ‘Big Pharma’ industry, especially suboxone Richie says that drugs like suboxone are prescribed to be used everyday for the rest of someone's life, and Ibogaine is a “one-time-only” style drug that doesn't require alot of money to heal people Ibogaine is not profitable so its not attractive to Big Pharma “Ibogaine will never hit the streets like LSD did. It's not a recreational experience, it's a long, daunting 3 stage process.” - Richie Use Cases He knows of a story where these two ladies took Ibogaine daily for their Parkinson's, and as soon as they stopped taking Ibogaine, they got their symptoms back He knows of another lady who had been walking with a cane and upon taking Ibogaine she was walking a mile around her neighborhood without her cane Final Thoughts Joe asks if Richie thinks we are over harvesting Iboga There is the Wakanga tree that contains a small amount of Ibogaine, so he thinks we are okay Ibogaine is an important subject because a lot of people are dying from opiates Ibogaine is available in Portugal but it hasn't had much activity It can be used for therapeutic use as well as addiction-interruption Links website Richie Ogulnick is a long time Ibogaine provider and enthusiast Over the course of fifteen and a half years, he conducted about 750 sessions, including addiction-interruption treatments. He spent the next several years referring close to 1,000 more people to other ibogaine providers. During that time, he also trained doctors and ex-addicts who opened ibogaine centers throughout the world. Richie feels a pull to focus again on the more therapeutic and psycho-spiritual treatments where he is able to offer his expertise in ibogaine treatment along with his knowledge of reintegration with individuals who are looking to deepen and enrich their life experience.
Download In this Episode, Joe interviews Brad Burge, Director of Strategic Communications at MAPS. In this episode they discuss the Phase 3 Trial for MDMA Assisted Psychotherapy, contradictions and Expanded Access. 3 Key Points: MAPS is about to run Phase 3 Trials of MDMA Assisted Psychotherapy If MDMA passes this third phase, it will still be tricky to get insurance involved. But the cost of one series of MDMA Therapy is much cheaper than a lifetime of typical pharmaceutical drugs and therapy sessions to heal PTSD. The only reason for-profit companies haven't gotten involved before was because there wasn't a promise on their investment. Finally, for-profit companies (like Compass Pathways) are interested in advancing these medicines (Psilocybin and MDMA). Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes MAPS Brad Burge is the Director of Strategic Communications at MAPS, the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies MAPS started out as just a few employees in 2009 and has grown to over 40 now Phase 3 Study They are now in Phase 3 Trials They started recruiting at 14 sites (US, Canada and Israel) and are recruiting 150 volunteers with severe PTSD Participation The Future of MDMA Assisted Therapy Breakthrough Therapy Designation The FDA categorized MDMA as a breakthrough drug for PTSD After phase 3 trials, if all goes well, it would mean that MDMA would be the drug to be used (only) alongside Psychotherapy MAPS is training therapists, counselors and social workers One way to get more people educated who are interested in this would be taking therapy interns in and having them gain credits for interning and learning alongside trained therapists Access Expanded Access is known as ‘compassionate use’, a program by the FDA that allows people to receive a treatment that is still in trials In order to administer the therapy you are required to get a DEA schedule 1 license “If there’s one thing that changes public perspective on psychedelic therapy, its individual stories of people who have been healed, transformed by or positively or even negatively affected by them in some way” - Brad They have published many studies of the trials The most recent was the Boulder study, 76% of people didn't have PTSD a year after MDMA assisted therapy Insurance won't cover expanded access, it will have to pass Phase 3 trials until insurance can be used in MDMA Assisted Psychotherapy The MDMA is a very small cost (fraction) of the total cost, it’s the hours on hours of psychotherapy that cost so much But the cost of one MDMA Therapy Session process is much cheaper than a lifetime of pharmaceutical drugs and therapy sessions to heal PTSD Argument Joe says he hears this strange argument that people say “giving soldiers MDMA just makes war easier” Brad says it's not about putting these people back into war, it's about healing the retired veterans to help them adapt back into their everyday life “MDMA Assisted Psychotherapy is going to make them a better lover not a better fighter” - Brad “If there's one commonality in psychedelic experiences, its that things are connected.” - Brad Compass Pathways Joe mentions that people are scared to see a business come in that's acting like a normal pharmaceutical company MAPS is not tied at all with Compass Pathways Out of the top two things Americans are mad about, at least one of them is the Pharmaceutical Industry Finally, for-profit companies are interested in advancing these medicines (MDMA) The only reason for-profit companies haven't gotten involved before was because there wasn't a promise on their investment Capitalism has a tendency to put profit first “Money can be used for good as well as evil” - Brad MAPS has raised over 70 billion dollars all from donations Compass owns its own safety data Part of the goal of a patent is to protect the investment Zendo Project MAPS Psychedelic Harm Reduction and Peer Support resource Tim Ferriss has volunteered for Zendo They are always looking for new volunteers They offer trainings on site at the events They will be hosting a harm reduction webinar right before festival season Rave Act The Department of Justice announced that providing free water and harm reduction education are not violations of the rave act Amend the Rave Act Pharmaceutical MDMA The pharmaceutical grade MDMA costs 800,000 for one kilogram It won't be available in bottles, it will be available in bubble packs More than one is never needed Involvement 2021 or 2022 is the next Psychedelic Science Conference Joe is starting a Psychedelic Club in Breckenridge, CO Links Twitter Facebook Website About Brad Brad Burge is Director of Strategic Communications at the non-profit Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). Brad earned his B.A. in Communication and Psychology from Stanford University in 2005 and his M.A. in Communication from the University of California, San Diego in 2009. He began working with MAPS in 2009, where he engages daily with journalists and media producers around the world to enhance public knowledge about psychedelic research, while also helping develop and evolve MAPS' brand and outreach strategy. Brad is passionate about finding healthier, more effective, and more compassionate ways for humans to work with the pharmaceutical and digital communications technologies of the 21st century. When he’s not plugged in, you’ll find him in the mountains, carrying a backpack, somewhere down a long trail.
Download In this episode, hosts Joe and Kyle sit down and engage in conversation together, covering topics such as Kyle’s capstone project, Trauma and Breath: A Clinical Approach to Trauma Resolution Utilizing Breathwork, current events, upcoming plans and the hurdles as a Psychedelic education and information company in a space of both ethical and unethical findings. 3 Key Points Kyle will be soon finishing his capstone project, Trauma and Breath: A Clinical Approach to Trauma Resolution Utilizing Breathwork. The project is on the clinical application of Breathwork Therapy. The goal will be to use an Integrative Breathwork Therapy model that can be used adjunct to Psychedelic Therapy. Joe and Kyle find out about a lot of things that are potentially harmful in the psychedelic world. They are “journalists”, but without money for legal defense. It’s a difficult time, where a lot of unethical stuff is happening around psychedelics, and Joe and Kyle feel responsible for the safety of the community. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes Kyle Kyle’s been doing an internship a few days a week and has been doing undergraduate student counselling He’s been working on his capstone project that has consumed a ton of his time and energy He wants to thank Elizabeth Gibson and Alan Davis who have been reviewing his capstone project for him Breathwork Therapy Capstone Writing the capstone in the Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program means it needed to have clinical applications Kyle went to the MDMA Training in 2016, and he talked to Michael Mithoefer, who told him that if he wants to get involved, to figure out something that can be an adjunct to psychedelic therapy Kyle thought that he could use an Integrative Breathwork Therapy model that could then be used adjunct to Psychedelic Therapy Styles of Breathing A deep, slow belly breath can be very activating to the parasympathetic nervous system that calms the body down A fast, intense breath can be more active and can bring out traumas The Phases Phase 1: Grounding and Emotional Regulation (slow, deep breath, the therapeutic alliance) They screen for people that have had a traumatic experience, spiritual emergence or psychosis in the last 6 months so they know where to start with a patient They use a capscore (a test that looks at the severity of someone’s PTSD) to determine where to start in therapy Joe mentions that it would be beneficial to see what level of capscore a patient responds positively or negatively to a Breathwork session Phase 2: Using Breathwork in a somatic processing phase Stage 1: Somatic experiencing (helping people breathe into the sensations in the body) The body has a ‘secret language’, of how our body holds onto trauma Turning inward and being more in touch with inner sensations (tightness, heat, etc) Stage 2: A more activating of “blockages” by intensifying or speeding up the breath Phase 3: Outside of the clinical scope, placing someone in a full group, 3 hour Breathwork that might bring up collective traumas or spiritual experiences The goal would be to get people through therapy to get them to the larger group process, create community and form social connections It needs to start with the clinical space, one-on-one to generate trust. Once they have that trust and confidence, they can go out and explore the more transpersonal and spiritual aspect of themselves Bandwidth in Communication We have modems, cable, fiber optics, 3g, 4g, 5g cell networks, etc. Video communication, phone conversation is great, but it's 2D When its in person, depth of field kicks in, you're able to see body language and intonation Living in a tribe of 150 people and creating community, we'd be using our full bandwidth, bringing the human organism back to its full capacity "Therapists get taught clinical practices, but they aren't taught about theory and practice of trauma” - Joe Psychedelic News Responsibility MAPS just published an article about an online Breathwork workshop Joe says its not a bad thing, but there are risks by not having an in person facilitator “We find out about a lot of things that are potentially harmful in the psychedelic world, our relationship to coming out about that stuff is tricky. Yes, we are “journalists”, but without money for legal defense.” - Joe Joe says he feels responsibility for safety in the community Kyle says the psychedelic community sometimes feels like the wild west due to the lack of education. “When unethical stuff arises, what is our responsibility?” - Kyle “We are trying to understand our future, and not put ourselves in a bad place, all while keeping you all safe and continuing to serve the community” - Joe How LSD alters our consciousness Psychedelics Today Books Trip Journal Integration Workbook Both books will be on Amazon for purchase in the next few weeks Arizona Psychedelic Conference Arizona Psychedelic Conference Joe and Kyle will be guiding 2 Breathwork workshops They are excited to connect and meet people Kyle and Joe will be going to another conference in March The title of the conference is “Can Exceptional Experiences Save Humans, from Ecological Crisis” “If were going to survive on earth, we've got to be a little more global. We are all linked to this spaceship that we are traveling through space on, and there are limited resources on this thing. We are answering a lot of these questions through psychedelics” - Joe About Kyle Kyle’s interest in exploring non-ordinary states of consciousness began when he was 16-years-old when he suffered a traumatic snowboarding accident. Waking up after having a near-death experience changed Kyle’s life. Since then, Kyle has earned his B.A. in Transpersonal Psychology, where he studied the healing potential of non-ordinary states of consciousness by exploring shamanism, plant medicine, Holotropic Breathwork, and the roots/benefits of psychedelic psychotherapy. Kyle has co-taught two college-level courses. One of the courses Kyle created as a capstone project, “Stanislav Grof’s Psychology of Extraordinary Experiences,” and the other one which he co-created, “The History of Psychedelics.” Kyle is currently pursuing his M.S. in clinical mental health counseling with an emphasis in somatic psychology. Kyle’s clinical background in mental health consists of working with at-risk teenagers in crisis and with individuals experiencing an early-episode of psychosis. Kyle also facilitates Transpersonal Breathwork workshops. About Joe Joe studied philosophy in New Hampshire, where he earned his B.A.. After stumbling upon the work of Stanislav Grof during his undergraduate years, Joe began participating in Holotropic Breathwork workshops in Vermont in 2003. Joe helped facilitate Holotropic and Transpersonal Breathwork workshops while he spent his time in New England. He is now working in the software industry as well as hosting a few podcasts. Joe now coordinates Dreamshadow Transpersonal Breathwork workshops, in Breckenridge, Colorado.
Download In this episode, Kyle and Joe host Rebecca Ann Hill and David Jay Brown, Authors of the book, Women of Visionary Art. The book showcases the work and inspiration of female artists such as Josephine Wall, Allison Grey, Amanda Sage, Martina Hoffman, Carolyn Mary Kleefeld and many others. 3 Key Points: Rebecca Ann Hill and David Jay Brown are co-authors of the book, Women of Visionary Art, which includes discussions with 18 female artists. The book and the episode are an exploration of the role that dreaming, psychedelic experiences, and mystical visions play in visionary art. There is a strong need for a balancing of masculine and feminine energies. Females tend to be more nurturing and more cooperative, and it's exactly the factors that are missing in our current world and are causing problems of greed. 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Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About David David’s background is in Psychobiology, the interface between psychology and biology He spent 10-15 years working in neuroscience and research labs His interest in Neuroscience came from his experience as a teenager, experimenting with psychedelics He wrote his first book, The Science of Psychedelics, about 10 years ago David mentions that the psychedelic renaissance has allowed him to write openly about psychedelic topics that he’s been preparing his whole life researching for About Rebecca aka Molly Moon Sparkles She has a huge creative drive She is currently studying psychology and is playing in the art program She is fascinated by entheogens, plant medicines and psychedelic compounds She is a painter and is working on the Molly Moon Magick Series that focuses on the divine feminine She wrote and illustrated the book Ecstatic Love, Lost Dreams and Mystic Visions Psychedelics and Creativity There is strong evidence that psychedelics improve creativity Music, art, technology, so many great things are influenced by psychedelics Putting the Book Together David was so fascinated with the visions he would see on psychedelics and wished that he had the talent to portray it through artwork, and then he began to see artists bring these visions to life He also saw a lot of gender inequality, that there were more men than women in the visionary art space It urged him to highlight the under recognized women in visionary art Rebecca was experimenting with other realms with plant medicines and psychedelic compounds She says her consciousness was so drastically different from any other time in her life, and she started painting her psychedelic experiences This led her to begin building community with other artists who shared the same ‘vision’ as her She said that the psychedelic experience has so much feminine nature to it that wasn't being voiced “We are going through a serious ecological crisis right now and the teachings behind the psychedelic experience is to heal the collective and help climate change” - Rebecca Stanley Krippner conducted a survey of artists and psychedelics The Imbalance of Masculine and Feminine There is an uprising of feminism with the “Me Too” movement, women in congress, women’s marches Our species has been so dominated by men and we need the nurturing and caring aspects of the feminine perspective Surprising Aspects of the Women The most surprising aspect is how much in common the women had David says it was beautiful how well each artist was connected to each other through their stories Laura Holden is completely self taught There were two women from the book that had never touched a psychedelic substance They were inspired through dreams and daydreams The psychedelic experience not only inspires the artwork, but it creates a new way of viewing artwork Kyle mentions that he always wished he could record his dreams Joe says he has been seeing research around capturing visual or imagined imagery Discovering the Artists David discovered most of the artists that he had not previously known through the community Rebecca had been a part of as visionary artists COSM and Entheon August 3rd, Rebecca and David are giving a presentation as COSM in New York Entheon, the Sanctuary for Visual art may be open by them Entheon will have workshops, painting classes, rooms to stay in, full moon ceremonies, etc. It will be an art sanctuary, a church with a spiritual and psychedelic essence Visionary art is getting into museums and becoming a recognized art form The Desperate Need for Balance Terrence McKenna told David that early on in human civilization, men didn't understand the role that sex had in creating babies The power of reproduction was within women and sex was something else Once men began thinking that they were responsible for the generation of life, they starting saying its “my baby” its “my wife” instead of ‘our’ baby or the community’s baby. It kept developing into “my child” into “my country”, “MY”. Then people started using less psychedelics and started consuming more alcohol and now everything is an over exaggerated male dominance “Females tend to be more nurturing and more cooperative, and it's exactly the factors that are missing in our current world and are causing problems of greed. It could be balanced and harmonized with more feminine energy.” - David There is a crucial imbalance from male and female in history alone But more than an imbalance between just males and females, it's about an imbalance of masculine and feminine energies Each of us, male and females have both a masculine and feminine energy We can see the masculine and feminine imbalance in the world and our planet right now. We don't need to shift to a goddess worshiping planet, but we just need to be back in balance and bring more feminine energy of nurturing and compassion and caring and healing Penny (an artist highlighted in the book) mentions about Sandos giving LSD to researchers who gave it to artists Getting Involved “If you want to get involved in painting, dancing, making jewelry, clothing, gardening, don't wait. Do it. If you are true to yourself and your own inner visions, you will succeed” - Rebecca One thing all artists have in common is fear and insecurity, so you can't let it hinder you from beginning Final Thoughts Artists like Android Jones are doing visionary artwork in virtual reality mediums David thinks visionary artwork will become only even more interactive and immersive spaces We need to find a more yin-yang balance between masculine and feminine Links Women of Visionary Art (Amazon) Women of Visionary Art (Inner Traditions) David’s Site Rebecca’s Site MollyMoonSparkle blog About Rebecca Rebecca Ann Hill (AKA Molly Moon Sparkle), is a visual artist with a wide range of experience in different creative mediums. She is the co-author and illustrator of “Ecstatic Love, Lost Dreams & Mystic Visions”, as well as “Women of Visionary Art.” Primarily a painter, she is creating a new series entitled “Molly Moon Magick,” and her other projects include dancing with “Gold Town Burlesque,” writing a blog -“Go Ask Molly”- and working on a new book about her spiritual awakening. About David David Jay Brown is the author of Dreaming Wide Awake: Lucid Dreaming, Shamanic Healing and Psychedelics, and The New Science of Psychedelics: At the Nexus of Culture, Consciousness, and Spirituality. He is also the coauthor of five other bestselling volumes of interviews with leading-edge thinkers, Mavericks of the Mind, Voices from the Edge, Conversations on the Edge of the Apocalypse, Mavericks of Medicine, Frontiers of Psychedelic Consciousness, and of Women of Visionary Art. Additionally, Brown is the author of two science fiction novels,Brainchild and Virus, and he is the coauthor of the health science book Detox with Oral Chelation. Brown holds a master’s degree in psychobiology from New York University, and was responsible for the California-based research in two of British biologist Rupert Sheldrake’s books on unexplained phenomena in science: Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home and The Sense of Being Stared At. His work has appeared in numerous magazines, including Wired, Discover, and Scientific American, and he was the Senior Editor of the special edition, themed MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies) Bulletins from 2007 to 2012. In 2011, 2012, and 2013 Brown was voted “Best Writer” in the annual Good Times and Santa Cruz Weekly’s “Best of Santa Cruz” polls, and his news stories have been picked up by The Huffington Post and CBS News.
Download In this episode, hosts Kyle and Joe interview Balázs Szigeti, PhD and David Erritzoe, PhD to discuss the self-blinded microdosing study in collaboration with the Imperial College London. In this episode, they explore the self-blinding study and it’s pros and limitations, with the aim to collect data on microdosing and its possible benefits. 3 Key Points: Microdosing (LSD) has the least amount of research so far among research on drugs like Psilocybin, MDMA and Ketamine. This microdosing study includes a procedure on how self experimenters can implement placebo control. This will help determine whether microdosers feel benefits due to the placebo effect or because of the pharmacological action of the microdose. Just because microdosing may have a placebo effect (the way a user feels while taking it) it may actually have benefits that one cannot necessarily ‘feel’ (users may become more creative, have better problem solving skills, etc). 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Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Balázs Balazs attended his undergrad in the UK at Imperial College and studied Theoretical Physics He moved to Scotland to get his PhD in Computational Neuroscience He became interested in psychedelics via the Global Drug Survey He was doing MDMA research and then the microdosing project came to him About David He is a medical doctor and works in clinical psychology doing research He does brain imaging and his background has been in addiction, depression and schizophrenia He did his postdoc at Imperial and worked with Robert Carhart Harris He worked in a clinical trial working with people of treatment resistant depression He is currently working on an online survey for microdosing Psychedelic Medicine MDMA for PTSD is the most advanced in terms of available scientific evidence for psychedelic medicine There is already a big gap in psilocybin vs MDMA for treatment There isn't much research on microdosing yet In order to do research on microdosing, you'd have to bring in a ‘patient’ and have them in the lab for many hours at a time, very frequently, and it's not practical The Microdosing Study In this microdosing study, they are testing cognitive function The user will have to fill out a questionnaire throughout the duration of the microdose There were a lot of things, very political for the downfall of psychedelic science When the double-blind method was introduced for science, it used methods that would have compromised the ‘setting’ of taking psychedelics There is a manual that the users have to follow for the setup process Its a semi-randomized process where they take the microdose over 4 weeks and it may be either the psychedelic or a placebo It works on a method of a dose hidden in a capsule assigned to a QR code, where the user doesn't know what they take until the end of the study This is a study inviting people that plan to microdose a blotter based psychedelic Its a hands-off study of observation, based on a users own plan on taking the substance Limitations of the Study Its half-way between a clinical study and an observational study They aren't sending the users the LSD, they are just providing the platform for the users to share their experience on In this trial, the flaw is that the research team doesn't know the dose size of the blotter the user takes, it could start as a 100mg, more, less. Its a variable that cannot be controlled The fix would be to have the LSD sent to the lab, tested for dose size, and then sent back to the user (anonymously), but since it's illegal it cannot be done It's also hard to determine even distribution of a blotter into microdose size They don't know if the user is cutting the blotter paper like a pie or in squares Also, because the drug is being bought on the black market, they wont know if there are adulterants in the drug unless the user tests the drug themselves David and Balázs also say that based on current findings, most LSD tested is pure LSD, where a drug like MDMA is more common to contain an adulterant They do have plans to extend the study to include plant based psychedelics and volumetric dosing What is a Psychedelic Microdose? Psychedelic microdosing is not the same as Pharmacological microdosing A microdose in pharmacological context is 1/100th of a dose, where a psychedelic microdose is more like 1/10th of a dose Is Microdosing Worth it? People like David Nichols and Ben Sessa think microdosing is pointless It could be that microdosing is a glorified placebo effect Most people who are microdosing have had previous experience with psychedelics People are doing it because they believe there is a benefit that comes from it The placebo control is the most important component of this self-blinded method People say that microdosing stimulates their creativity, but creativity is hard to measure One thing they could measure is personality through a personality assessment One thing that has been studied is an increase in the ‘Openness’ personality trait after psychedelic use The flaw is that a personality test is a person answering questions about themselves Current Findings The benefit of this study, is it doesn't take people out of their natural, personal setting Based on the feedback already received, the users are getting their guess right only half of the time, on whether it is the microdose or the placebo Just because microdosing may have a placebo effect (the way they feel while taking it) it may actually have benefits (users may be more creative, have better problem solving skills, etc). Homeopathy is widely believed to be a placebo effect in the scientific community, but the homeopathy is continuing to grow Links Self-blinding Microdose Study About Balázs Szigeti, PhD Dr. Balazs Szigeti has studied theoretical physics at Imperial College, but turned towards neuroscience for his PhD studies at the University of Edinburgh. His main work is about the behavioural neuroscience of invertebrates, but he has a diverse scientific portfolio that includes computational neuroscience and driving forward the OpenWorm open science initiative. Balazs is also the editor of the Dose of Science blog that is published in collaboration with the Drugreporter website. Dose of Science discusses and critically assesses scientific studies about recreational drugs. Recently Balazs has started a collaboration with the Global Drug Survey to quantitatively compare the dose of recreational users of various drugs with the scientific literature. About David Erritzoe, PhD Dr. David Erritzoe is qualified as a medical doctor from Copenhagen University Medical School and currently holds an Academic Clinical Lectureship in Psychiatry at Imperial College London. Alongside his clinical training in medicine/psychiatry, David has been involved in psychopharmacological research, using brain-imaging techniques such as PET and MRI. He has conducted post-doc imaging research in the neurobiology of addictions and major depression. Together with Prof Nutt and Dr Carhart-Harris he is also investigating the neurobiology and therapeutic potential of MDMA and classic psychedelics.
Download In this episode, Joe interviews Nathan Sepeda, a Research Coordinator at Johns Hopkins. Joe and Nathan cover topics on 5-MEO-DMT research and survey studies, the difference between synthetic and toad sourced 5-MEO-DMT, the sustainability of the Bufo Alvarius toad, and the benefits of a proper facilitator. 3 Key Points: 5-MEO-DMT is starting to gain traction in the research world. The conversation continues on whether the synthetic 5-MEO-DMT experience is any different from a 5-MEO-DMT experience sourced from the toad venom. As the popularity of 5-MEO-DMT increases, concerns about the wellbeing and sustainability of the Bufo Alvarius toad also increases. Proper facilitation has been shown to affect a person’s experience on a substance like 5-MEO-DMT. The use of a practitioner, finding the substance from a reputable source, and integration all play a critical role in the user's experience. 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Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes 5-MEO-DMT Joe found out about Nathan Sepeda and the work being done on 5-MEO-DMT after Johns Hopkins released a poster on 5-MEO-DMT Alan Davis put together a survey about people’s 5-MEO-DMT experiences Half of the use was recreational, and then the other half of survey participants used more of a therapeutic approach set and setting including a sitter and integration The study found that the more structured the 5-MEO-DMT experience was around set and setting, the more often participants reported a more mystical experience as well as a lower likelihood of having a difficult experience The survey only looked at synthetic 5-MEO-DMT Using 5-MEO-DMT from a toad also runs the risk of the other toad venom constituents Joe said the first time he heard about data on 5-MEO-DMT was at the Oakland Psychedelic Science Conference in 2017 Stan Grof had a keynote saying that 5-MEO-DMT was the future of psychiatry Toad Conservation The Bufo Alvarius toad’s population is increasingly declining Joe says he knows someone who lives on the Mexican border in the Sonoran desert, and he would have toads jump into his house all the time He doesn't even see them anymore Joe also mentions the toads flocking to the UV street lights, and people scooping them up or even running them over “How do we do less harm to living things and treat our environment better?” - Joe Nathan’s Role at Hopkins Nathan is the Research Coordinator of Psychedelic Studies at Johns Hopkins He works as an Assistant Facilitator (sitter) for the psychoactive drug sessions He is involved in Psilocybin studies (currently the depression study) He says he is grateful to be a part of the research, seeing people change in a matter of days from the help of the substances Nathan has a background in Psychology and Neuroscience Mary Cosimano is the primary facilitator for all of the studies at Johns Hopkins His training consisted of mock sessions, ways to ask/answer questions, and overall hold the space A lot of people will describe their experience being the most spiritual experience of their life Joe asks about upset stomach with synthetic 5-MEO-DMT Nathan responds saying they ask patients to eat a light breakfast, but he never really sees upset stomach with synthetic 5-MEO Proper Facilitation The use of a practitioner and finding the substance from a reputable source are the two biggest factors in having a great experience, along with integration Nathan says that these findings are preliminary but they are a great start to data on the substance and its use Joe says he is cautious about the religious affiliation people prescribe to their experience with these substances It can get out of hand, there are “shamans” that taze people or throw buckets of cold water on their patients when they are on the substance Waterboarding, sexual assault, all of these things speak to the value of screening practitioners Joe has heard about a facilitator using an extremely high amount of 5-MEO-DMT on his patients, far above the effective dose Joe mentions a story about a “shaman” who was to facilitate a session. The participant thought they were going to do standard DMT, and the shaman gave them 5-MEO-DMT instead (without the users consent) Joe suggests that just because you know a reputable source for a substance, doesn't mean they are a good facilitator Final Thoughts People can find information on the study at clinicaltrials.gov People can apply by contacting Nathan’s team directly They will have room for healthy volunteers in healthy volunteer studies in the future They are currently working on “insight surveys” that are surveys asking people about their psychedelic experiences Links Hopkins Psychedelic Research Website About Nathan Sepeda Nathan Sepeda is an assistant facilitator (or guide) for psychoactive drug sessions and research coordinator for the Johns Hopkins Psychedelic Research Unit. Nathan earned an undergraduate degree from the University of Minnesota studying psychology and neuroscience. His interests in addiction and mood disorders, in combination with the promising research with psychedelics, have led Nathan to Dr. Roland Griffiths’ lab. Nathan is involved in a number of projects investigating the effects of various psychedelic substances, including psilocybin, salvinorin-A, and 5-MeO-DMT.
Download In this episode, Kyle interviews Dr. Jenifer Talley, Clinical Psychologist and Assistant Director at the Center for Optimal Living that does harm reduction in psychotherapy. Topics include the current stigma of substance use and the benefits of using a harm reduction approach. 3 Key Points: Dr. Jenifer Talley is a Clinical Psychologist at the Center for Optimal Living who practices harm reduction with her psychotherapy clients. Substance abuse is typically a symptom of a bigger issue. Jenifer uses a model called the 7 Therapeutic Tasks that helps build a safe relationship with her clients in adjusting their substance abuse mindset. There is a stigma on substance use, and shifting away from the current model into a harm reduction framework could help users be more receptive to change and healing. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Dr. Jenifer Talley Jenifer grew up outside of DC and moved up to New York area for her internship and was working with female survivors of trauma and substance use at St. Luke's Hospital. Dr. Tatarsky has founded the Center for Optimal Living and she is the Assistant Director The Center for Optimal Living is known best for their work with substance use and harm reduction Substance Abuse Jenifer says that 'abstinence only' or 'abstinence first' approach doesn't really work It's all about determining the relationship the patients want to have with a substance People really struggle with vulnerability and trauma is a player as to why someone wants to use a substance “Substance use is a symptom of a bigger issue” - Jenifer It's unfair to ask someone to change without asking the whole system to change 7 Therapeutic Tasks The Therapeutic Alliance - Letting the client know they can trust them The Therapeutic Relationship Heals - Jenifer says they are sensitive about creating a safe therapeutic relationship with clients Enhancing Self Management Skills - How to better help with coping skills, shifting how people relate to cravings “What’s driving my urge to go for a drink right now?” Loneliness, boredom and sadness are reasons for craving Assessment as Treatment - What was the craving, how did they respond to that craving, how did they give into the craving, how did they feel afterward When Friday night rolls around, can the client picture the guilt and shame of Monday morning in that moment? Embracing Ambivalence - The client might have different parts of themselves, one part of them may want to really work on healing and change, and the other part of them might never want to change Goal Setting - helping clients think through bigger lifestyle changes they want to make, such as diet, self care activities, and specific substance use related goals Personalized Plan for Change - asking people to really evaluate their use Substance Use Stigma How do we not be judgmental about someone's substance use, and care about their safety? Jenifer says she feels very protective about people she works with, and is very sensitive to her clients because of the shame about their drug use Clients Under the Influence Jenifer asks herself “does this person need medical attention right now?” She had a client that came in intoxicated but they were able to have a conversation still But she didn't let him go home because the fact that he drank She gave him food and water and waited until he was able to get home safely She thought about it from a compassionate approach and thought “what is that telling us about his use?” and the next time the client came in they said their drinking was hardly manageable Harm Reduction Model There is a gap in training as clinicians as providers In the US specifically, the 12 step process and abstinence are used which are a part of the disease model There is a lot of stigma and shame in calling someone an addict The fear about the harm reduction model is that it is thought to lead to decriminalization The other issue is that the harm reduction model is thought to not include abstinence Jenifer says it does include abstinence, she just doesn't lead with the abstinence approach Kyle mentions that a common thought for clinicians is “How do I incorporate a hard reduction approach without condoning drug use?” Jenifer says the drug use is happening already The first step is noticing your own biases first, and then getting informed about the model Andrew Tatarsky’s Book Patt Denning and Jeannie Little - Over the Influence Shifting to the Harm Reduction Model Help clients build a life that they are happy with 3 day training coming up The training goes into the history and why there needs to be a paradigm shift in looking at addiction The second and third days really go into the 7 Therapeutic Tasks Because there is more funding, they are going to train the region of Florida to train the staff at the Department of Health The idea of harm reduction might be less appealing to parents, so they really focus on educating parents and teens on harm reduction versus strict abstinence Safety First Robert Meyers Kyle mentions a statistic he read saying that the older generation’s vice is alcohol, and that young adults are using opioids and pills Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program is psychedelic harm reduction Final Thoughts A harm reduction approach is necessary to teach people how to test, it could possibly save lives Families for Sensible Drug Policy We need to re-humanize treatment for users Links JeniferTalley Center for Optimal Living Check out our online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Dr. Jenifer Talley As the Assistant Director of The Center for Optimal Living, Jenifer coordinates clinical services and training activities along with providing individual psychotherapy.Together with Dr. Andrew Tatarsky, she started the first-ever Harm Reduction Psychotherapy Certificate Program. In her clinical work at The Center for Optimal Living, she provides individual psychotherapy using an integrative harm reduction framework where the focus is on developing a collaborative and compassionate relationship with my clients to promote positive change.
Download In this episode, Joe and Kyle sit down with Renn Butler, who graduated from the second ever class of Holotropic Breathwork in 1989. During the show, they discuss topics on Breathwork, Stan Grof practices, archetypal astrology and the astrological landscape we are entering in 2019. 3 Key Points: Renn Butler is an Archetypal and Holotropic Astrologer since the 70’s who uses astrology in his Breathwork practice. Stan Grof’s Internalized Protocol includes lying down with eye shades and headphones with a sober sitter. A sober sitter is more common in therapeutic settings versus the shamanistic group settings, and Renn believes there is more benefit to a sober sitter in a personal session than a group session. We are moving into a Jupiter square Neptune for all of 2019. Neptune represents our soul’s yearning to reawaken to the universal field of consciousness and Jupiter amplifies whatever it touches, so we are entering into a time of opportunity for self exploration and awakening. 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Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Renn Renn became interested in Stan Grof’s work through many conversations with Richard Tarnas in 1980, and then participated in a Grof month long session with guests like Gwen Frishkoff He spent much time in Esalon He remembers walking through the hallways where the mandalas from breathwork sessions were hung He has been an Archetypal/Holotropic Astrologer since the 70’s Archetypal Astrology Stan Grof looked at ways to determine the content of people’s experiences in assisted psychotherapy Through his friendship with Richard Tarnas, he found that people’s planetary alignments or ‘transits’ corresponded in a remarkable way with their experience in a session “The purpose of astrology is to predict the meaning behind events rather than trying to determine the specific concrete forms they take.” - Renn Carl Jung coined the term archetype based on the Greek word “arche”, which means ‘the forms’ It's the psychological meaning behind events Richard learned astrology by looking at his sessions and the content of the sessions and their correlation with astrological transits Based on his findings, he was able to predict the best days to do sessions A Powerful Breathwork Session Renn had Kundalini Experiences happening for 4 years Transiting Pluto was conjoining his natal Neptune Pluto compels into being whatever archetypes it aligns with Neptune represents divine consciousness He did a 5 hour breathwork session that caused him to re-live aspects of toxic womb (disturbances of intrauterine life) Pluto can help clear out disturbances of the psyche At the end of the session, he felt way more cleared out than he did before It resolved his Kundalini episode that he was in for the last few years Kundalini Awakenings Some describe it as energy moving up the spine or chakra It means to clear out leftover traumatic baggage in the psyche People can have emotional outbursts and start crying or screaming as they discharge the energy Afterward, they will care what happens to the ecosystem and around them and want to be a part of the solution Spiritual Emergence and Psychosis Joe asks when to tell the difference between knowing if someone is going through a Spiritual Emergence or needs hospitalization Renn responds saying you need to look for if the person is taking responsibility for their healing versus projecting. Projecting would be someone saying “You guys are trying to poison me” versus taking responsibility and saying “I’m feeling toxic feelings inside myself” Free Webinar on Spiritual Emergence and Psychosis Renn mentions a woman who did 90 LSD sessions with Stan Grof “The greatest therapeutic outcomes exist with intelligent well established individuals whose lives become boring and rigid in routine” - Stan Grof Current Astrological Alignments The Astrological Alignments for the next few years are supercharged Uranus square Pluto - a powerful set of archetypes The last time this happened was the end of the 60’s Richard Tarnas calls it the ‘sunset effect’, colors will saturate the sky in the archetypal realm Many people are going to have dramatic healing breakthroughs and openings until 2020 For those who are a bit skeptical about astrology, Renn suggest reading newer texts; Cosmos and Psyche Prometheus the Awakener Making the Gods Work for You Horoscope Symbols Planets in Transit Astrological Transits in Relation to Breathwork Richard’s correlation of the outer planets Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto with Grof’s 4 perinatal matrices shows the process of revolutionizing astrology Carl Jung would do chart work before seeing all of his patients He would try to find transits with Jupiter, Uranus, Venus, etc There are no astrological alignments that would be too dangerous to do journey-work during But Renn says it's like putting up the lightning rod during certain transits during breathwork “Lie back and let the mother give birth to you” - Renn Renn says it's safer if you are on your back during journey work versus walking around and facing gravity and falling or hurting yourself Grof Internalized Protocol One patient at a time (sitter, breather team) to lie down, wear eye shades, and listen to music through headphones The sitter agrees not to judge or direct the process or abandon the process You can expect miracles with this type of protocol You can't face this material by yourself, you really need people you trust, who are sober and not doing a substance, one person at a time Renn says the ayahuasca revolution has brought a lot of greatness to the western world, but the shamanic traditions usually meant that the shaman drinks with the clients to have a magical insight into the users psyche Sitter Role In a therapeutic framework, the sitter is sober and lets the client do all of the work, and the sitter is there to assist, but not to interfere with the process Stan describes it as a way to maximize the benefits and minimize the risks Renn brings up an example of 3 people doing mushrooms together One person might be feeling aggressive, and another person might feel like a baby wanting to be held The aggressive person won't want to be doing any cuddling One person does the catalyst, and the other 2 support them, and then the next time they rotate Renn thinks one deep session is more beneficial than 3 ‘half-assed’ sessions Interruptions During Sessions Some people have a fear that their experience may interrupt another person's experience Renn says that if someone is laughing or screaming or crying that he understands it is just a part of the universe of the way things just are He is shocked to hear stories about people having a loud experience getting taken out away from the rest of the group and told to contain themselves Kyle mentions that sounds usually aren't a bother, and the loud music helps But it's talking, English words that bring people out of a session People can have great ayahuasca ceremonies, and then they think that ayahuasca is the best psychedelic out there Renn says that all psychedelics are great tools But he encourages people to try breathwork and this solo session style healing Joe says he dreams of a place where shamanism takes a look at the solo process and maybe not always the group process, that all cultures can combine our knowledge for the best result 2019 We are moving into a Jupiter square Neptune for all of 2019, 90 degrees between Jupiter and Neptune Neptune represents our soul’s yearning to reawaken to the larger world’s soul, to the universal field of consciousness Jupiter amplifies whatever it touches This presents a large opportunity for self exploration, with a feeling of deeper cosmic safety “It seems like our psyche’s wait until things are safe for the deepest material to surface.” - Renn Renn says it's good to focus on death so that we can constantly keep our priorities straight Links A Week of Holotropic Breathwork, Dreamwork, Archetypal Astrology, and Visits to Mayan Ruins in Tulum, Mexico Archetypal Astrology Consultations Renn's Books The Archetypal Universe Pathways to Wholeness Check out our online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Renn Following a B.A. in English and Religious Studies from the University of Alberta, Renn Butler lived at the Esalen Institute in California for 2½ years where he became deeply immersed in the transpersonal psychology of Stanislav Grof and the emerging archetypal astrology of Richard Tarnas. He completed training as a Holotropic Breathwork facilitator with Stan and Christina Grof in 1989 and has facilitated many workshops in Victoria, Canada. His research includes over three decades of archetypal-astrology consultations and Holotropic Breathwork workshops, and thirty-five years of Jungian-Grofian dreamwork.
Download In this unique episode, Joe brings Tom Hatsis and Dr. Jerry Brown together for a psychedelic debate. They go back in forth in conversation on whether there was psychedelic use in medieval or ancient Christianity and if so, was there a secret tradition of including art of mushrooms or psychedelic substances in cathedrals and castles. 3 Key Points: Jerry Brown makes the claim that there is evidence of visionary plants in Christianity and the life of Jesus found in medieval art and biblical scripture. Tom Hatsis makes the claim that Christianity is not hiding a giant secret inside the biblical texts about the true hallucinogen at the root of the religion being an Amanita Muscaria. Jerry and Tom debate back and forth, pulling from art and textual evidence (and lack thereof) to support or deny the claim that Psychedelic Mushrooms are the root of Christian religion. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes Jerry B. Brown PhD. Anthropologist, Author and Activist Served as the Prof of Anthropology at FIU in Miami He designed and taught a course on hallucinogens and culture He is the Co-Author of Sacred Plants and the Gnostic Church: Speculations on Entheogen use in Early Christian Ritual The Psychedelic Gospels: The Secret History of Hallucinogens in Christianity Tom Hatsis Author, Public Speaker, Roller Derby Player and Potion Maker He is the Author of three books in Psychedelia; The Witches Ointment: the Secret History of Psychedelic Magic Psychedelic Mystery Traditions; Spirit Plants, Magical Practices and Psychedelic States Microdosing Magic: A Psychedelic Spellbook Partnered with event organizer and short film maker, Eden Woodruff, who runs Psanctum Psychedelia in Portland in the process of winning the Guinness Book of World Record in Magic Intro The debate is around the early Christian use of psychedelics and mushrooms in Christian art The conversation is on the validity on whether or not psychedelics were used in early Christianity Dr. Jerry Brown on Psychedelics in Christianity The Miracle of Marsh Chapel - a double-blind experiment conducted by Walter Pahnky in 1962 where 20 students were divided into two groups, half received niacin and the other half received psilocybin 9 out of 10 who took psilocybin had a profound psychedelic experience Brown explains that this is an important part in the entire history of psychedelics After discovering the Amanita Muscaria mushroom (confirmed by Paul Stamets) in a 15th Century Church in Scotland, he realized that there were many entheogenic images in Christian art He says that most church historians do not have training in mycology to recognize entheogens and mushrooms He brings up an image of Adam and Eve standing next to a large Amanita Muscaria mushroom He went to a Parish Church and saw an image of Jesus entering Jerusalem on a Donkey, and one of the youths welcoming Jesus is holding a long mushroom cap He went to churches in England, Germany and France In the drawing of Genesis, he saw God creating plants (psilocybin mushrooms) "When you go back beyond the 3rd century, there are no visual images or Christian art due to poverty and persecution" - Jerry Jerry reads a passage, “Jesus said to his disciples, “compare me to someone and tell me who I am like” Thomas said to him, “Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like.” Jesus said “I am not your master, because you have drunk you have become intoxicated from the bubbling wellspring that I have personally measured out. He who will drink from my mouth will become like me, I shall become like he, and the things that are hidden, should be revealed to him.” He interprets the passage as a reference to drinking a psychoactive mushroom substance Jerry goes on to explain that Jesus realized his feeling of eternal life through the use of psychoactive entheogens He says that this is not a means of dismissing Christianity, but instead to reintroduce Christianity with its original roots Tom Hatsis on Psychedelics in Christianity Tom says that Jerry makes a lot of assertions, but does not present any evidence. He talks about art, but not anything in scripture Tom is curious why the only artwork that Jerry brings his assertions about mushrooms are from a time where we can’t ask them about it Tom brings up Julie and Jerry’s book and that the first chapter has nothing to do with Christian History at all Tom uses an example of stone mushrooms. Someone doing a cross cultural analysis, might agree that they are mushrooms based on the other findings of cannabis and opioids But, as a historian, Tom looks for evidence and in this case, there are eye witness accounts of its use He brings up the example, the infamous plaincourault fresco of Adam and Eve at the tree of good and evil with the forbidden fruit Using this one example, he wants to prove how critical historical methodology is used to prove unsubstantiated claims on Christian art as wrong Tom urges listeners to view the unaltered versions of the plaincourault fresco at Georgio Samorini’s Flikr page The paradise tree is a mix of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and a symbol of Christ's victory over Adam’s transgression. In the play, it was tradition to place small Eucharist wafers on the tree branches so that’s what the white dots are on the tree branches The tree's shape is not a mushroom cap, it is a parasol of victory Jerry’s Rebuttle Jerry says that the absence of evidence, is not equal, or proof of evidence of absence (just because it’s not written in text, doesn't mean that its not there in the art) Jerry’s issue with the fresco is that “The Fall” is a New Testament creation, not all the way back in Genesis He says that on their website, they do not ‘alter’ the image, they ‘enhance’ it He says that Tom claims the fruit doesn't matter, but the fruit does matter (it could be a psychedelic mushroom) He touches on the skeletal appearance of Eve and the meaning of renewal of life Jerry thinks this image is the beginning of the religious experience and symbolism that the soul is immortal and will continue to exist after death He says the serpent is not a depiction of evil entering Eden, but instead a source of knowledge and a spiritual guide to the feminine to help bring man into higher awareness Tom’s Rebuttle Tom says he didn't hear any evidence from Jerry, he heard arguments to authority He says that Jerry uses anthropology to uncover history, and opinions of art historians, but medieval historians agree that the mushroom is not present in Christian art He also says he did agree with Jerry about the mushroom in art, but that was last year and he has proven himself wrong and that the mushroom caps are parasols of victory Jerry says that Amanita Muscaria was in the Soma, but Tom says cannabis was, and mushrooms were not Chris Bennett's book on Soma There is zero evidence for mushroom art during medieval times In Jerry’s book, he writes about the Basilica di Aquilea, saying that they are Amanita Muscaria, but Tom says they are not that type of mushroom Tom also says that in the play depicted in the plaincourault, that the script literally says the wafers are hung on the tree, and that the little white dots are not the dots from an Amanita Muscaria Jerry’s Closing Remarks He says that this isn't just cultural analysis, this is about fieldwork and looking at how native people view this artwork The problem he has with Tom and Church historians is that it is not taking evidence from Ethnobotanists Jerry says he believes that there is a long tradition of entheogenic mushrooms in Christian art and would like this debate to continue Tom’s Closing Remarks Tom says he still isn't hearing evidence, he is only hearing assertions and argument to authority and eminent scholars Tom says that Genesis doesn't matter in the plaincourault, because we know that it's about the play He has multiple articles debunking these images on his website Carl Sagan’s Bologna Detection Kit - which shows how to spot fake conspiracies Tom says the holy mushroom hypothesis fails against all the claims Jerry has made Links Tom's Website Jerry's Website Check out our online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Jerry Jerry B. Brown, Ph.D., is an anthropologist, author and activist. From 1972-2014, he served as Founding Professor of Anthropology at Florida International University in Miami, where he designed and taught a course on “Hallucinogens and Culture.” The course examines the use of psychoactive plants by tribal and classical cultures, including Ancient India and Greece, and by and discusses the discoveries of the modern mind-explorers, the “psychonauts of the twentieth century.” About Tom Thomas Hatsis is an author, lecturer, and historian of witchcraft, magic, Western religions, contemporary psychedelia, entheogens, and medieval pharmacopeia. In his spare time he visits rare archives, slings elixirs, and coaches roller derby.
Download In this episode, Joe interviews Duncan Autrey, a conflict transformation catalyst and educator. He runs a podcast, Fractal Friends, that covers topics of self-similarity across our diversity. During their conversation, Joe and Duncan discuss ways of resolving conflict in our relationships and society. 3 Key Points: Duncan Autrey is a conflict transformation educator, working for peace and cultural change. Conflict happens when one person wants to be heard so much that they stop listening to the other side. It is a product of living in a diverse world. We have more rights than we think we do when facing law enforcement. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes What is Conflict? Conflict is a product of living in a diverse world Conflict resolution is about how to get different perspectives working together Conflict happens when someone is really passionate about their side of the topic Conflict also happens when one person wants to be heard so much that they stop listening to the other side The ARC of conversation A stands for acknowledge R stands for reflect back C stands for be curious Resolving Conflict Its okay to be certain about your own experiences, but someone might also be certain about their experiences and the key is to find a mutual ground "How do we understand ecological issues better and work with each other to find how to create better conversation around it?" - Joe In a conversation of conflict, the other side may be the antidote to your extreme Interdependent Polarity - each side has something positive and negative, and each side should acknowledge the negative but aim to pull out the positive of the other side Iceers “It's better to find a way to navigate the question, rather than to answer the question” - Duncan In a hierarchy of permanence, laws are really low. Laws come and go 3 ways we resolve conflict over time; power, violence and laws But the interest based model includes everyone and all sides and works through conflict to live in and share the same planet with each other Impressive Resilience in Humans “Shifts happen” People that Duncan works with start thinking to themselves “I'm a good guy facing a bad guy” and the person on the other side of conflict also thinks “I'm a good guy facing a bad guy” Helping guide the people in conflict to just listen to the other person fully is what starts the shift Law Enforcement and Conflict It's important to recognize the difference between the system and the individuals Our whole system of television, movies, everything is all feeding into this There are sociopaths in the world (5% of the population), and they are falling into roles like prison guards and CEO’s Duncan brings up a story where he was in a car with someone who got pulled over, and the car got completely searched He had vitamins on him, and the police assumed it was MDMA, so he was arrested and spent 4 days in jail “This is a place where the people who are on the right side of the law, are being treated like assholes, and where people on the bad side of the law, are on their best behavior” - Duncan This is a systemic issue, where the society says that you are a good person for doing something good, and are a bad person for doing something bad But we shouldn't be defined by what we are ‘caught’ doing, either good or bad People should be able to hold onto their humanity (not be locked up for life) for something like possession of a drug “If we're going to care about our shared humanity and our right for everyone to be here, we have to figure out the path of restoration” - Duncan “Slavery isn't okay, unless someone gets convicted of a crime” Victoria’s Secret has people in prison slavery making lingerie in South Carolina People have to pay off debt from their incarceration, before they get a license, to get a job, that they have to apply to as a criminal Society doesn't make it easy to be human after prison People in grad school with the same amount of debt, have an education, (usually) a job, and have hope for the future Rights When Getting Pulled Over Right to remain silent is real Right to consent for search - you don't have to say yes Law enforcement tries to use the fact that you think you're guilty and will let the search happen You can't be detained without probable cause (4th Amendment) You can be detained long enough for a traffic citation, but not enough to be caught for another crime Smoke smell in the car is probable cause, even in s state where it is legal Joe mentions dash cams so that there can be recordings on both ends, not just one end (the police’s evidence) Duncan had the thought that maybe once they realize that his vitamins were not MDMA, that they might try to switch out the vitamins with MDMA His attorney said they aren't that corrupt, or smart Links Website Podcast Check out our online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Duncan Duncan Autrey has worked in facilitation and conflict resolution for over fifteen years in diverse contexts ranging from rural Paraguay and Colombia to cities of Seattle, Washington, DC, Cuenca and Buenos Aires. He approaches conflict from a belief that it arises from the diverse cultural experiences of common human needs. Every conflict or complicated situation, large or small, is an opportunity for deepening our relationships and improving the world we live in. Duncan currently runs a podcast called Fractal Friends covering topics on exploring our self-similarity across our diversity.
Download In this episode, Joe interviews Steve Hupp, the Host of Kentucky Ayahuasca, a new series on Viceland. Topics include Steve’s background and how he wants to impact the American Ayahuasca scene through his work. 3 Key Points: Kentucky Ayahuasca is a docu-series on Viceland about Shaman, Steve Hupp as he works with people seeking healing from severe emotional and physical issues. Steve comes from an unusual background of career criminal and bank robber, and because of his time in prison with a Peruvian Shaman, has decided to bring the tradition to the United States. Steve is careful not to mock what shamanism is by creating ceremony in the States. He wants facilitation to be done as safely as possible and is simply trying to help people through Ayahuasca ceremony. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Steve He was a career criminal who robbed banks It landed him in prison and put him into the same cell of a Peruvian shaman who had overstayed his visa and was probably doing some facilitating in the States His name was Guadalupe and Steve called him Loopy because of the things he was talking about But here and there Guadalupe would say something that would resonate with Steve days and weeks later that just made sense Prison He spent 4 years in prison He got into the federal system because he had beaten the state system so the federal system picked up the case Steve pleaded guilty and made a deal with them to give them their money back He also agreed not to sue the police for opening fire on him He was one of the first bank robbers released on a bond Religion and Spirituality Up to that point he was an Atheist He decided that something else was keeping him alive for something because of what he survived during the police chase Steve says he's seen how religious law worked by seeing gangs turn into congregations He says he is no longer an Atheist after having experience with Ayahuasca He had an epiphany that “anything is possible” and he decided he wanted to bring this to everyone He started to have coincidences that led him to facilitation Shamanism Steve isn't trying to defraud what Shamanism is, but he is trying to tailor it to the American way of life He says the Shaman in the jungle has a different context than an American does Joe mentions that people get upset about how the word ‘shaman’ is used Steve says ‘shaman’ comes from the Siberian word, ‘saman’, which means “to know” but has been branded by anthropologists He also says shamanism is the oldest world religion Joe brings up that so many people suggest doing Ayahuasca in the Amazon because that's where the spirit of the plant is, but he also mentions that the same type of biodiversity exists in Kentucky too Purpose Steve says they face reverse-racism because they can't work with native tribes because they are white, but he’s just looking to bring everyone together “If we don’t start helping our little blue sphere heal, it's all we've got” - Steve He said he had more fear transitioning into Ayahuasca facilitation than any bank he’s robbed because he had to put his name on it His intent is not to build a cult, he believes we are at the dawn of a new world and we are all in this together Helping Addiction with Ayahuasca Steve says he believes there are no addicts, just unbalanced humans Joe says he read recently that the term “addict” keeps people in their problems When he helps people who are addicted to drugs, and they drink Ayahuasca, they realize the drug is not the problem, but the guilt and the shame about using the drug is the problem Plant Teacher Steve believes we are intergalactic children We could use our technology and knowledge to better us rather than being so distracted by the ‘lines in the sand’ He says we could feed everyone on the planet with land the size of Texas What Ayahuasca is trying to teach us is to be kind to each other and we have that choice everyday We need to get past this barbaric attitude of domination “I know I've got grandchildren that I may never see, but I've got to try to leave them a world better than the one I've found” - Steve If we were to teach our kids to teach our grandkids something, we wouldn't be handing them millions of dollars in national debt Its a non-violent change “What if we collectively manifested accountability in our government?” - Steve Law Enforcement Steve believes law enforcement shouldn't be able to have more power than soldiers at war Soldiers in Iraq can't fire unless they have been fired upon Shaman University No one has ever done this before, Steve wants to put together a structure to make sure this operation is done ethically He wants to lay the foundation for people to participate in Ayahuasca ceremony safely He says anybody can brew Ayahuasca, but doing it safely and properly is key Joe encourages viewers to check out the series on Viceland Steve also encourages listeners who want to do Ayahuasca abroad to do tons of research before attending to make sure there are proper facilitators, ethical procedures and quality emergency response techniques and resources Links Kentucky Ayahusca on Viceland Website Check out our online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Steve Steve Hupp had spent time in the Military. He was lost in materialism, drug abuse, alcoholism and pride that led him on a 5 year bank robbing spree that ended with him in Federal Prison, where he met his first Shaman, a cellmate. Now he is an Ayahuasca Shaman performing psychedelic healing ceremonies in Kentucky. Steve has worked with Ayahuasca for 15 years, trained by a Shaman from South America on how to work with Ayahuasca. He has spent much of that time working alone and experiencing many visions and entities that called him to found Aya Quest.
Download In this episode, Joe sits down with Kevin Matthews, Campaign Manager of Decriminalize Denver, the group looking to decriminalize magic mushrooms. During the show, they cover topics such as the Right to Try Act, therapeutic success and what it might look like to have Psilocybin decriminalized in Denver. 3 Key Points: Decriminalize Denver’s efforts are aimed to decriminalize Psilocybin Mushrooms in the city of Denver, CO., and are currently getting signatures to be on the May 2019 ballot. The Federal Right to Try Act allows a person with a life-threatening illness to use any substance that has passed phase one clinical trials. There is so much research and data on the benefits of Psilocybin Mushrooms, and being in an age of social media sharing, people are waking up to the idea of mushroom decriminalization. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Kevin Kevin is a part of the group, Decriminalize Denver The group submitted the ballot initiative called the Denver Psilocybin Mushroom Decriminalization Initiative and they are getting signatures to make the May 2019 ballot Kevin became interested in mushrooms after leaving as a Cadet at the US Military Academy due to major depression He was interested in Psilocybin Mushrooms impact on depression Talking Publicly about Psilocybin Use “Self-healing from psychedelics” is something most people want to be careful talking about Does it uninspire therapists? Does it ruin the medical model? Kevin states that people are afraid to talk about it because they are a schedule 1 substance Those who are willing to take the risk to talk about it are because they believe that mushrooms might have the best impact on them Right to Try Act Kevin knows someone with PTSD and tumors who is prescribed to Psilocybin under the Federal Right to Try Act Anyone who has a life-threatening illness can use any substance that has passed phase one under clinical trials His psychiatrist said that the psilocybin has been nothing short of miraculous in its effects He takes 1.5-2 grams of dried mushrooms every 7-10 days It puts him in control of his own protocol Trump just signed the Federal Right to Try Act this summer, Colorado has had their own since 2014 Generational Mushroom Use Joe says that the media landscape has really changed in the past few years and so much more research and information is becoming accessible to everyone Veterans for Natural Rights group is supporting this mushroom movement After the Controlled Substances Act of 1970, a lot of people went underground with their use 30 million people in the country have used psychedelics in the last decade More young people now are using psychedelics than the same age group used psychedelics in the 60’s Decriminalize Denver The goal of the group is to decriminalize the personal use and personal possession of Psilocybin mushrooms, including the propagation of mushrooms for personal use “Our main goal with this is to keep individuals out of prison, help our vets, and help our loved ones who suffer from these traumas” - Kevin Colorado Always Making Progress Right now, Colorado state legislature is looking at safe injection sites and different kinds of penalty such as rehab instead of incarceration Joe says Denver is a kind of microcosm of the whole nation, it has an interest in both sides of an issue, instead of just one sided “Mushrooms help, in a very profound way. And opening that door is the first step to changing people’s minds, both metaphorically and physically.” - Kevin The medical applications of Psilocybin are huge such as for a stutter, autoimmune issues, anxiety and depression Talking about Psilocybin Kevin says you can't have a conversation without two opposing sides He is excited for when the conversation starts because there is a ton of points on why Psilocybin is proven to be effective John’s Hopkins said that Psilocybin should at a minimum be a Schedule 4 (same level as prescription sleep aids) source Schedule 1 means “no medical value and high risk of abuse” From the clinical research and population studies alone on Psilocybin, we know that's false Decriminalize Denver’s Current Focus Getting all 5,000 signatures (2,000 so far) by January 7th Coalition building, doing some fundraising Getting volunteers activated After getting all the signatures, then they will be on the ballot. Once on the ballot, the campaign and outreach starts Using Psilocybin for Therapy Joe brings up a story about his teacher Lenny Gibson who had multiple bouts of cancer and is a psychedelic scholar. Lenny was incredibly mad at Tim Leary because he was in cancer support groups and imagines how many more options cancer patients would have for pain if drugs were not made illegal Looking at decreasing suffering, it would be special for the Denver population to find relief in anxiety and depression before going into a life-threatening surgery, etc. If this turns into a regulatory medical paradigm, licensure is important How do we create the paradigm to open the work in a professional therapeutic manner? Grand Rounds Doctors will get together around a case study and share it within the medical community It's a way to share and practice case studies organically and internally With social media alone 30,000 people can be reached a month Typing in to Google “benefits of mushrooms” brings up a ton of research When people hear about John Hopkins, NYU, Harvard, UCLA Medical Center, and all of these companies that have already been doing the research they become more interested Medicalization does not equal rescheduling Carl Hart It takes the breaking up of a family after prison time of a drug offense, 7 generations to recover Joe knows of a case where someone in Colorado who got busted for having mushrooms only ended up serving 2 weeks and didn't get a felony for it In 2005 New Mexico Court of Appeal said that cultivation of psilocybin mushrooms does not qualify as the manufacture of a controlled substance, as long as they aren't dried Mushrooms are Beneficial, Not Harmful How do we ruin fewer lives by legalizing mushrooms and keeping people out from behind bars? Mushrooms can put you in touch with yourself and help connect yourself to others Feedback Most of the responses are, “Hell yeah I’m going to sign this!” or “This saved my life” Kevin says when someone says no, it's all about educating them They had 45% support it and 20% maybes Working with the City The bill would include a Psilocybin Mushroom Policy Review Panel, a city level committee made up of health professionals, Police, Denver Sheriff's office, city attorneys, etc Final Thoughts Kevin wants as many people as possible willing to participate to volunteer They will be starting public Q&A twice a month (and live streaming them) Links Website Facebook Instagram Check out our online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Kevin Kevin Matthews is leading the decriminalization of Psilocybin mushrooms in Denver, Colorado. He and his group of dedicated volunteers are currently collecting signatures to make the May 2019 Ballot.
In this episode, Joe and Kyle interview Jake Mitchell from the Flight of Thoughts Podcast. Jake has spent 4 years as a Paramedic in Canada and leads trainings around mental health, first aid and is bringing better practice of psychedelics into the psychedelic space. 3 Key Points: It’s so important to know your substances and get a testing kit so you know its not laced and you know exactly what you're taking. More people seek help when they look at an overdose or a difficult experience as if they are suffering versus breaking the law. Decriminalization at the least, would help make people be seen as a patient and not a criminal. Most police aren't trained on mental health issues, and they have shot and killed people because they don't know how to correctly respond to issues like schizophrenia. We need more mental health training among our law enforcement. 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Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Jake He had major depression and didn't know it, and started to use cannabis as a useful tool for his depression He started to notice some of the first responders use MDMA and Psilocybin off-duty to help with their PTSD “PTSD for those who have been in combat is more understood than for first responders with it, people think that we can just handle it.” - Jake There are levels of trauma that don't qualify daily for PTSD, but for police and firefighters and such, they can be triggered by certain events It's hard to say what percentage of first responders use cannabis, MDMA and psilocybin for personal therapeutic use Jake says he knows of at least a quarter of first responders who have been open about their use There is a new initiative that if police use cannabis, even right before their shift, as long as they are ‘fit for duty’ they won't be scrutinized CBD CBD counteracts the effects of THC, THC binds to CB1 receptors, and CBD binds to CB2 receptors CBD is similar to Advil If someone has taken too many edibles, they can take Advil to counteract the effect of the THC It counteracts the THC similar to how CBD does People used to say to have a good night, eat a pot brownie, but it's a better idea to smoke for the first time than to eat an edible Harm Reduction - Teaching People How to Respond to Overdose They are teaching people about harm reduction kits or when to call an ambulance Know your substances, and get a testing kit so you know its not laced and you know exactly what you're taking Know what breathing technique you want to use if you “feel the fear” setting in If you know someone is on a clean substance, you can try to help them through it, but if it could be laced (with fentanyl, etc) call an ambulance If someone is unresponsive, that's a sign they could be overdosing You can rub as hard as you can with your knuckles on their chest and scream their name, and if they don't wake up, that's a good sign to call 911 Always turn them on their side so that their air passages open up and they don't asphyxiate on their tongue or vomit If you are informed on how to use narcan and you think they are overdosing on fentanyl, use it If they are awake and are psychologically freaking out, just sit them down and simply ask them “how can I help?” They might want something as simple as some water or to go for a walk Knowing your dose is so important LSD and psilocybin don't have cardiac effects, they don't shut off breathing, so you shouldn't have a reason for feeling like your going to actually die unless it's been laced MDMA is one you have so worry about but you'd have to take hundreds and hundreds of milligrams Fentanyl test strips are $2 They are only $1.50 if you buy 100 or more Drug Showmanism The first option should always be cannabis Usually the only reason that people overdose on heroin is because it's laced with pharmaceuticals Advil and Tylenol work similar to opioids Sometimes we have emotional trauma and it comes out as physical pain More people seek help when they look at it as that they are suffering versus breaking the law Narcan costs $20-$40 An overdose death costs $30,000 In Canada, the pharmacist will inform you on how to use Narcan Jake says he hopes that the US will catch up Narcan availability and use The grinding of the teeth after taking MDMA may be a sign that it contains amphetamine Decriminalization at the least, would help make people be seen as a patient and not a criminal A Healthcare Issue, Not a Crime The Good Samaritan Act in Canada says if you have minor possession of a substance and not a traffic-able amount, and you call the ambulance for an overdose, you will not be searched or charged Most police aren't trained on mental health issues, and there have been situations of people with schizophrenia having a moment in public, and because the police don't have education on signs to look for, they have shot and killed the victim 23 and Me, the gene testing company has found that over 180,000 genes tested have been linked to schizophrenia High THC levels can make schizophrenia worse, where CBD can counteract it Serotonin Toxicity Jake says he's been hit in the face by someone on PCP It took 6 police to hold one person down. Another time, there was a guy who was wearing underwear in freezing weather, punching cars driving at almost 40 miles an hour They were snorting Wellbutrin, an antidepressant that works as a stimulant when snorted Serotonin syndrome is super dangerous Ketamine is used in the ER for scenarios like this Does taking MDMA too frequently ruin your serotonin system? Emanuel Sferios - the number one risk of using MDMA is you might not get high from it anymore Addiction Type II Diabetes is a symptom of sugar addiction Sugar and carbs create bacteria in the gut that releases plaque in the blood Technology addiction - Jake had a patient that sliced an artery and was texting and on candy crush and Snapchat Links Instagram Facebook Check out this FREE online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Jake Jake is a Primary Care Paramedic with experience in emergency response, evidence-based research practice, harm reduction techniques, and crisis intervention. He is the Founder of The Psychedelic Society of First Responders and Emergency Workers.
In this interview, Brian Pace interviews Dr. Jason Slot at Ohio State University. In the show, they talk about Jason’s contributions of the psilocybe genus. Jason is in the faculty at OSU in the department of plant pathology. 3 Key Points: There are over 200 species of mushroom forming fungi that produce psilocybin, and Jason studies how and why these organisms produce the psychoactive compound. Animals seek altered states of consciousness as a potential evolutionary mechanism. Mushrooms use horizontal gene transfer to pass on their psychoactive properties. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Jason "There weren't many mycology job postings in the area, and a job came up for someone to study the evolution of fungal genomes" - Jason It all just fell into place What is Neurochemical Ecology Ecology is the interaction among organisms and their interaction with their environment Neurochemical ecology is a special case where the chemicals are specifically targeted to processes of nervous systems in animals There is an opportunity for plants and fungi to produce drugs and compounds that manipulate their behavior or inhibit their eating Species that Produce Psilocybin There are over 200 species of mushroom forming fungi that produce psilocybin Jason has found many more Distribution of Psilocybe Mushrooms were anatomically modern There were flowering forests and wood that spanned to each of the poles The supercontinent would have broken up after that and as the continents separated, so did the mushrooms Humans have been distributing psilocybe through the dung of migrating animals Columbian Exchange During colonization from the old world to the new world, there was the biggest exchange of fungi If the amount of biomass and dung expands, then the number of fungi species evolves and grows The underlying change in the climate that changes the planet from forested to open grasslands also has an impact During human evolution, psilocybe has been around the whole time These neurochemicals have dated human genus Serotonin Serotonin is analogous to psilocybin Bacteria was the first organism making serotonin Insects produce serotonin “Serotonin is a great key, it fits into a lot of different locks and is used in a lot of different ways” - Jason It's in plants, its in amoebas, and its in animals In animals, they have specialized a lot of different receptors that respond to serotonin Serotonin only interacts with one type of receptor in the body Altered States of Consciousness “It must be like something to be a bat, and it must be different than what it's like to be a human, what must it be like to be a bat under the influence of psilocybin, is it anything like a human?” -Brian Animals seek altered states of consciousness Bees seek out fermented grapes We have video footage of foxes taking huge bites out of Amanita Muscaria Seeking out intoxication is a natural human drive Maybe the desire to seek out these altered states of consciousness is an evolutionary mechanism that is happening If you search out new ways of perceiving the world, you may come upon a new pattern that your group of species learns how to live better If ants come back to the hive too drunk, they get punished and get bit Language One of the ways humans distinguish ourselves We have specialized vocal chords, and tongues that make our language unique Terrence - Stoned Ape Theory - the thesis was that psilocybin mushrooms were a part of the diets of the hominids There was some kind of co-evolutionary relationship that may have resulted in human language Psilocybin’s role in our development “What kind of role did psilocybin mushrooms play in our development?” The hominids came down from the trees and now they are standing upright We have to look at opportunity, constraints, etc. If the ape eats psilocybin, it may have an idea or understands its environment better It may help the ape acquire more food or expand into new territory The access to food and changes in locomotion are huge forces in our evolution Having fire to cook our meat and change our availability to nutrients is one of the biggest forces in evolution of human consciousness than mushrooms Horizontal Gene Transfer Vertical transfer of information means from parent to offspring Horizontal transfer of genetic information happens between species One bacteria has a gene to resist an antibiotic, and another doesn't. One bacteria can obtain that gene from the antibiotic resistant bacteria (ex. Antibiotic-resistant staphylococcus) Gene transfer can happen in multicellular creatures like mushrooms Fungi are exchanging genes through different species Paneolis Mushrooms did not inherit the biosynthetic pathway to produce psilocybin, they received it from a totally different genera KT Extinction A comet impact that caused havoc and climate change that resulted in the extinction of dinosaurs Mega herbivores, putting out tons of herbivore dung The genes to make psilocybin were acquired by a dung loving Paneolis from a dung loving Psilocybe Dung attracts flies, but it doesn't kill the insects that eat psilocybin Psilocybin is one of the safest drugs for consumption The amatoxin in Amanita Muscaria (The Destroying Angel, commonly mistaken with Matsutake), interrupts the central part of cellular metabolism Identifying Genes in Psilocybin He sequenced 3 different species of mushrooms that make psilocybin, and then looked at one species that didn't make psilocybin They take two pieces of DNA and then compare them They all have those genes, but how did they get them? Validated the biosynthesis of psilocybin Mediated Horizontal Gene Transfer When fungi are under stress they take the DNA from their environment Cicada Parasitism There are cicada pathogens that infect the cicadas before they emerge from their ‘underground’ and their rear end is transformed into these spore producing structures They fly around and drop their spores all over Are these plants or fungi are using any of these neurochemicals in house for cognition? Turing test - a computer can convince you that it's human Link Website Check out this FREE online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Jason Jason Slot is an Evolutionary Biologist that studies topics in three major areas, the genomic and metabolic bases of fungal adaptation and niche, horizontal gene transfer mechanisms and the evolution of symbioses. He is in the Department of Plant Pathology at Ohio State University.
Download In this episode, Joe interviews Philip Wolf founder of Cultivating Spirits, a cannabis pairing company. The talk includes topics on Terpenes, Social Consumption and the Cannabis experience industry. 3 Key Points: Terpenes are the component in cannabis that produce the aroma and ‘mood’ you will be in after smoking. As more and more places legalize cannabis, the market opportunity for combining food and cannabis grows. Cultivating Spirits is a cannabis experience and tour company that offers small-batch cannabis, fine wines, and locally sourced gourmet meals. They are a leader in cannabis-infused experiences. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Philip Philip has been in the legal industry of cannabis in Colorado for 9 years Cultivating Spirits started in Breckenridge, Colorado in 2014 after legalization He went to a wine experience event and had an epiphany of bringing the cannabis experience to the ‘soccer mom’ He walked away from equity in multiple companies because he believed in it Cultivating Spirits is the first company to offer a cannabis pairings experience After learning about terpenes he learned about pairing foods with attributes of cannabis Terpenes There are 3 components in cannabis that give you certain feelings THC gets you high, gives a euphoric feeling Flavonoids Terpenes produce the aroma of cannabis and it determines the ‘mood’ you will be in after smoking Terpenes are produced in all plants and produce, they attract pollinators and help fight disease within the plant THC-A is non-activated THC, meaning it needs a flame or heat to activate it Michael Pollan’s book - Botany of Desire At the base genetic level, our goal is to reproduce and expand “Are we the workers for this plant?” - Philip Wolf People’s Reactions They are loving it! The average age for a person who attends Cultivating Spirits is 45 Cultivating Spirits focuses on parties and events Old folks are some of the best clientele, they don't have jobs and they are done with all of the hassles of making a family and working hard for their job, etc. Microserving Microserving is one hit Holding cannabis in longer doesn't get you higher, it's about the surface area of your lungs So if you expand your lungs very lightly, you will get less high than if you would if you fully expand your lungs when taking a hit Expansion Cultivating Spirits operates all over Colorado They are working to expand to Las Vegas They also opened up Cannabition They are taking this business to other places with good heart Cannabis Nightclubs and Social Consumption Lounges Cannabis isn't the reason for the decline in alcohol sales, but the desire for new experiences Philip believes it will happen first through coffee shops Everyone needs food, so it's a great market to integrate into “I use cannabis like I use a cup of coffee, I use it, but I don't use it all day” - Philip Wolf Cannabis… Psychedelic? There is a psychoactive part to cannabis Philip says he uses cannabis to deepen his meditation and yoga practice He is a Certified Yoga Teacher Although he is certified to teach, he did it for himself and to learn tools he can use during his whole life Cannabis is a mirror - it's what’s inside already but getting amplified First Dinner Approved by Municipality The opening of X-games in Aspen, CO in 2015 5 courses, 5 wines, 5 strains of cannabis A DJ from Thievery Corporation deriving beats from where the food dishes come from Jessica Catalano - Infusion Chef Learning More Lemonine makes your mind energized and Alphapinine and Betapinine will help you focus Leafly Essential oils are made up of terpenes Doterra Max Montrose - Trichome Institute Daniel McQueen - Medinical Mindfulness Links Cultivating Spirits Website Cannabis Wedding Expo Facebook Check out this FREE online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Philip Wolf Philip Wolf is one of the world’s first pot sommeliers, an expert and pioneer in the field. In 2014, he opened Cultivating Spirits with a mission to show mainstream America how cannabis should be treated. Setting tables with forks, wine, and pipes, Wolf’s pairings are grounded in the science of interpening, which the institute calls “a method used to identify and understand cannabis variety [by] interpreting … terpenes and flower structure.” Wolf can sniff a bud, identify the strain and terpenes, and interpret both the flavor profile and high. The protocol for his dinner with bud pairings is puff, eat, drink.
Download Today in the show, Joe talks to Maria Carvalho and Helena Valente, founding members of Kosmicare, a drug testing, and harm reduction service at the Portugal Festival, Boom. Joe talks to Maria and Helena on their personal backgrounds, how they got into Boom, research on recreational use, what harm reduction looks like, and what populations are underserved. Drug use is decriminalized in Portugal, and the focus of risk minimization has been useful in getting the population served versus putting people in prison. 3 Key Points: Kosmicare is a harm reduction and psychedelic emergency service starting at Boom music festival in Portugal. Working to support other events in Europe. Boom is in Portugal, where drugs are decriminalized and drug testing is legal. Drug policy has directly affected the number of emergencies that Boom has had. The Portuguese drug policy has resulted in fewer overdoses, drug-related deaths, and HIV infection. Other countries like the US should consider a drug reform with the current opioid crisis. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Kosmicare Kosmicare is a non-profit organization that looks to transform nightlife culture through humanistic, comprehensive and evidence-based policies and interventions They work toward a world where drugs can be used with liberty and wisdom Making festivals safe in Europe About Maria Psychologist, graduated in 1999 at University of Porto She started working in the field of problematic drug use Growing up in a difficult neighborhood was her purpose for getting into studying psychology and drug use She began focusing on recreational use Her younger brother was into the Electronic Dance scene and positioning himself with using substances She was interested in studying other motivations to use drugs than just using drugs to feed a problem She heard an announcement by MAPS in 2008 recruiting volunteers to do work in psychedelic emergency at Boom It was the perfect match considering her interest in psychology and drug use in recreational environments About Helena Helena is a Psychologist who was interested in drug use She wanted to have field experience, and she volunteered in a needle exchange program She began working for a harm reduction project to work in recreational settings that needed volunteers She became interested in the potential that drug checking has in the harm reduction strategy They are working toward a ‘drop-in’ where people can show up to a permanent space for drug checking and harm reduction The Numbers Over 20,000 people showed up to Kosmicare’s information session This year for the first time, Kosmicare had an HPLC (High Performance Liquid Chromatography) to identify LSD and pills They tested over 700 drug samples in 6 days Maria says half of the Boom population gets in contact with Kosmicare They serve 1% of the Boom population for psychedelic emergency (about 350 cases out of 35,000 attendees) The episodes usually have to do with psycho-spiritual situations versus just an emergency about the drug taken Psychedelic Emergencies Boom is a transformational festival that hosts attendees from over 50 countries Boom is different from Burning Man in that Boom is in Portugal which has a much more legal framework which helps with the services that can be offered Drug policy has directly affected the number of emergencies that Boom has Joe states that there are numbers of regulatory police at Burning Man Kosmicare is included in the entire setup of Boom, which helps reduce the number of scenarios that would cause an emergency at the festival, such as providing shaded areas all over It gets up to 43 degrees Celcius (108 Fahrenheit) But there is a water element so people can refresh themselves In the largest dance areas at the festival, they included medical emergency Teepees so attendees could be helped as quickly as possible Recreational Drug Use They did a survey on recreational drug use and most of the respondents said they use drugs in a beneficial way that doesn't interrupt their lives in a bad way Similarly with Boom attendees, most of them want to use harm reduction techniques so they have positive experiences and don't develop problems with their drug use Mat Southwell “drug users are calculated risk takers” “The legal framework has a terrible influence on people's relationship with drugs” - Helena Lessons Learned Maria says they have had many groundbreaking challenges In 2016 they had someone die on them while having a psychedelic emergency It made her really question why she was doing this Her first impression was that she was doing this work to save the inexperienced user She was caught off guard by the person who died because they were an experienced user and didn't taking unadulterated substances “People may go over the top for a wide variety of reasons, it was the biggest lesson I learned working for the Psychedelic Emergency services” - Maria It's hard to determine people's ability to calculate risks If the person had collapsed in front of an urban hospital in the city, the Hospital couldn't have done anything more than what they did at Kosmicare Collaborations Kosmicare has a collaborative relationship with Zendo MAPS was hired by Boom to direct the harm reduction services They use a lot of Stan Grof techniques for transpersonal psychology They are partnered with many other organizations in Europe that are trying to deliver the same type of psychedelic emergency and harm reduction services The Risks of Drug Policy Joe points out that there are so many festivals happening without these services The Rave Act prevents companies from attending festivals because it “harbors” drug use In Portugal, the fact that drug use is decriminalized, it opened up a legal framework around harm reduction Portugal is one of the few countries where drug checking is allowed by law The Portuguese drug policy has resulted in fewer overdoses, drug-related deaths, HIV infection, tuberculosis and other things Helena says that the US should rethink their drug policy considering the opioid epidemic In Portugal, there were only 12 overdose cases with heroin and opioids Portugal before the Drug Policy In the 80’s, there was a heroin epidemic, which had an epidemic of high infection rates and HIV. This motivated the policy change It was evident that prohibition was not working Usually when it affects only poor people, no one cares, but the fentanyl crisis is affecting all sorts of populations Links Website Facebook Check out this FREE online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Maria Maria Carmo Carvalho, Kosmicare Manager, Boom Festival, Portugal, is a Lecturer at the Faculty of Education and Psychology at the Catholic University of Portugal. She researches if the field of psychoactive substance use and has completed a MSc and a PhD at the University of Porto on the field of psychoactive substance use, youth and recreational environments. She is Vice-President of ICEERS and Kosmicare Boom Festival manager since 2012. About Helena Helena Valente began working with people that use drugs in 2004, focusing in nightlife settings. Helena has a vast experience in coordinating national and European projects in the drug field. At the moment she is a researcher and PhD. Candidate at the Faculty of Psychology and Educational Sciences of the Porto University and founding member of Kosmicare Association.
Download In this episode, Lori shares her first hand experience of MDMA Therapy assisted by Therapist, Shari Taylor. Shari Taylor is a PhD, MSN and RYT(Registered Yoga Teacher). Both from New Orleans, Lori Tipton was Shari’s MDMA patient who suffered from traumatic life experiences and PTSD. 3 Key Points: Lori shares her heartfelt story about her experience in healing her PTSD in MDMA Therapy Before her therapy, Lori says she struggled with loving herself, and the fact that she loves herself now after her healing is the reason she is alive today Lori says she wants people to understand that this is a legitimate form of therapy, and wants this to be accessible to everyone Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Lori Lori has a love/hate relationship with social media She saw on Facebook that they were opening the phase 3 trials for MDMA therapy in New Orleans Sent an email on a whim and Shari replied They looked for people who suffered from significant traumatic events in their lives Lori lost her brother to a drug overdose, her mother killed two people and she was the one to discover their bodies, and she was raped by someone she trusted and got pregnant and then had an abortion Lori says there was an extensive screening process and psychometric testing “You become more of a manifestation of the disorder, and it starts to become who you are” - Lori She felt so 'untethered' and removed from everyone and everything because of her PTSD Day one of Therapy There are many sessions before even taking MDMA to get to know each other first Set and setting are so important Lori says she went in with an open mindset, but was so skeptical She had seen psychologists, psychiatrists, endocrinologists, dietitians, taken anti anxiety meds and antidepressants, went vegan, became a yoga teacher, and even saw a witch doctor But she was nervous that she was going to go into the sessions and come out a different person, which had her start to question who she really was Taking the MDMA She was offered the MDMA, and she accepted it She lied there, started to feel the effects, listened to the music playing and it reminded her of a film she had seen Buddy Boulden a trumpet player, who passed away at 30 at a mental institution in Louisiana So this just popped into her head and then she told Shari about it and then next thing she knew she was telling her about her mother and her rape The way that MDMA worked for her in the first session is that when she had a memory, she could feel it, and she hadn't truly felt the feelings from those memories before As the session ended, it was anticlimactic She said it was like dipping the corner of a towel in water, the water would eventually cover the whole towel The amygdala is getting shut down in therapy, so you're able to bring up these memories without getting overwhelmed Days Following Therapy Lori said after the first session, it was awesome! She went and got pizza and it was the best pizza she has ever had in her life! The first session of MDMA allowed her to experience life in a way she hadn't been in years Her partner noticed her enjoying the world, and noticed the changes the most Lori wrote a lot before going into the sessions, and writing has helped her with her healing The Second Session Having PTSD led her to repress her feelings When she locked up her fear and anxiety, she unfortunately locked up happiness too In the second session she took more MDMA, and it really helped her She felt she was able to really separate herself from her memories and feelings and emotions “It was like taking off a pair of foggy glasses and it was so empowering” - Lori Joe mentions that after his one and only ayahuasca session, he got a strong message that he needed to reconnect to his family He says MDMA is so special in that it allows you to feel love in such a strong way, unbounded Lori says she struggled with loving herself, and the fact that she loves herself now is the reason she is alive today She says her experience is proof that MDMA is not a schedule 1 drug Joe says he hopes that the testing goes well to move MDMA into an accessible space Lori agrees and wants this to be accessible for everyone in her life She believes its revolutionary for psychology After the second session, she didn't want to run away from her feelings, she didn't want to kill herself Healing isn't always pretty, sometimes it looks like crying on the couch for 6 hours of the day She knew she had to be with those feelings Her therapist and her tarot card reader both said she would be more of herself after the therapy The Third Session She believes in the power of the drug, but it was also the support of the therapists. The combination of the two is where magic happened After walking into her mother's death, she couldn't remember so many parts of those moments In that third session, she revisited that memory, and was more present in her memory than what she saw in that moment in her real life She remembered things she wasn't able to remember from her life from over a decade She was able to have such empathy for herself in that situation In that moment, she would have been full of so much shame or blame and she was able to empathize with herself and forgive herself “These types of experiences transcend words of how it feels to release that pain” - Lori With the feeling of the release about her memory with her mother, she then began to talk about her rape and her whole demeanor shifted She was talking about it in an angry tone She had triggers post rape, when trying to have sex with someone she loved and it felt like a tiger entered the room, just frightened and in fear Certain yoga poses also triggered this PTSD response In the therapy session, Shari asked her to try entering into the yoga poses that gave her those feelings Lori was overcome with anxiety, fear, she cried, and felt like she was in hell Shari asked “what are you feeling?” Lori said she felt afraid and full of fear And Shari looked at her and asked “what does that feeling need?” Lori responded and said “it just needs to be heard” After that moment, she felt this huge release “There are very few moments in my life that are so profound and beautiful and meaningful to me” - Lori Joe said there is some magic in yoga to unveil certain energies when working through PTSD Afterglow She stayed the night each time after a session The morning after she had an integrative session She felt like she accomplished more than she even thought was possible There was not a part of her that understood how magnificent her experience was going to be She has been given the gift of being present in the moment She now has the ability to be with the people she loves, it changed her life To a therapist, who really wants people to be their best selves, this has to be a beautiful thing to see Joe says we are seeing movement with this kind of therapy With trials, publications, and people coming forward with their stories, its changing the mental health narrative Lori wants people to understand that this is a legitimate therapy “To deny this therapy is a disservice to human kind” - Lori Life for Lori After MDMA Therapy Startle response is so low She works in a bar, and things are dropped and she used to jump at everything, and now she doesn't anymore She’s less quick to get angry because she’s not thinking about all of the horrible stuff that could happen at the next moment Her ability to be present in the moment has helped her raise her son She doesn't have triggering moments when she is aroused She is feeling joy and happiness in a way she hasn't felt in over a decade Shari’s Thoughts Hearing Lori’s story gave her a new passion in her field Chipping away at the barriers through MDMA therapy is so remarkable Therapists create a safe environment with trust and the ability for patients to allow their barriers to fall down so that their inner healer can come out, to help them heal themselves She feels so lucky to be a part of this type of therapy Stan Grof - inner healer The same way that your body knows how to heal a wound on your hand, your mind also knows how to heal your psyche After Hurricane Katrina, suicide rates tripled Shari gets hundreds of emails from people wanting to be in this study, she hopes or it to become more available for people in the future For people who are more interested in learning about these trials, get on the MAPS mailing list Joe says or someone with PTSD symptoms, it's not always the best idea to go down to Peru and do ayahuasca, they could get re-traumatized Joe hopes for expanded access sooner than completion of phase 3 testing He says for therapists interested in MDMA therapy, he really hopes they dive in and learn a lot Final Thoughts Having discussions like this, storytelling, has the ability to change many people's mindsets Taking MDMA away from counterculture will be the quicker we can see drug reform Whether we see decriminalization, or given expanded access, we need to be aware of what that looks like so everyone can have access to this experience It's important to break the stigma of psychedelics so people are more open to their benefits Main Goals We want doctors to be able to use these drugs We want people to to use these drugs without going to jail We want a flourishing underground provider network that are skilled We need to keep working toward re-scheduling Links Lori https://medium.com/@LoriTipton Shari firstname.lastname@example.org The Mind-Body Project Check out this FREE online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Lori Tipton Lori Tipton is an MDMA Assisted Therapy patient who suffered from traumatic life experiences and PTSD. About Dr. Shari Taylor Dr. Shari Taylor holds a PhD in Psychology from Northcentral University, a Master’s of Science in Nursing from the University of South Alabama, and a Post-Master’s of Science from the University of Wisconsin-Madison specializing in the field of child/adolescent psychology. She is a Registered Yoga Therapist and teaches yoga both privately and in a class setting. Dr. Taylor is an avid participant in the art, music, and culture scene in New Orleans, Louisiana. She is continually enrolled in courses and workshops to expand her knowledge of nutrition, psychology, wellness, and spirituality.
Download James Oroc is the Author of Tryptamine Palace and the New Psychedelic Revolution. Show topics include Burning Man, visionary art, drug war, and politics around the 5-MEO-DMT experience. 3 Key Points: James Oroc is cautious about the medicalization of psychedelics. He believes psychedelics do not necessarily heal sick people, but instead bring a new perspective to healthy users. The 5-MEO-DMT experience is not like the typical psychedelic experience, not everyone should do it, and there are some serious negative side effects that could last for years if not integrated properly. The Bufo Alvarius desert toad is at risk. With climate change and the demand for using them for their 5-MEO-DMT, there is a lot of pressure on their survival as a species. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About James James has written a few psychedelic books, and is kind of a psychedelic icon His interests are in noveling and extreme sports journalism He wrote a book for Burning man, and gave away 500 copies at the festival He is a world class paragliding competitor He believes always being in nature is important In the late 80’s the psychedelic culture had crashed, except for the mountain towns, which is where psychedelic community ended up Joe lives in the Rockies, and was hanging out in Aspen and ran into an old hippie deadhead who talked about skiing on mescaline, when everyone would typically ski on acid In James new book he goes into psychedelics and extreme sports, about using a dose smaller than the psychedelic dose but larger than a micro dose Joe references a movie, Valley Uprising, where most of the climbers would hang out on the side of a mountain face, party all night, drop a bunch of acid and then sprint to the top James’ Interest in Psychedelics James says that 5-MEO-DMT converted him from to being a scientific, rationalist, atheist to agnostic, being merged and one with the god source, through the classic mystical experience He says it took him multiple years to figure out how a 40 minute trip experiences shifted his entire perspective for the rest of his life That's why he wrote his Burning Man book, as a way to help others relate to the experience and make their own sense of it Joe says James Book is far more fascinating than Michael Pollan’s Book, especially for people that have been in the psychedelic space for a while Michael Pollan states in his book that LSD was given to Tim Leary by Alfred Hubbard, but James says that's not true, he says that a man by the name of Michael Hollingsworth gave LSD to Leary, after coming to America with a jar of mayonnaise full of LSD James says its amusing for Pollan to form stories to fit his own narrative He says Pollan has talked about using psychedelics only four times, and that he doesn't like the psychedelic culture and by using them we will become more depressed James thinks depression is a result of the paradigm that we are in “I don't like the idea of psychedelics being used as bandaids to help people except the current paradigm, I like the idea of psychedelics being dynamite, to help bring the next paradigm shift” - James Smart people are depressed because they are realizing we are screwing this planet up, and we may not have that much time left on it He called it ‘extinction denial’ in his last book, and after writing his last book in 2009, its gotten exponentially worse Joe asks James why he thinks people are denying the extinction narrative James replies saying people feel like they can't do anything about it, they worry about paycheck to paycheck, and get caught up in all the small distractions of life. He says no wonder people are depressed Psychedelics aren't a Medicine James thinks the only reason they didn't take hold as medicines in the 60’s is because they were difficult to use, and didn't fit in the medical model “The problem with medicalization is it puts psychedelics in one box, I’m more interested in giving psychedelics to healthy people than sick people” They don't fall under the true classification of medicines James thinks they should be called therapy, instead of medicine He understands the interest of why people want to use them as medicines, but that shouldn't be the only way they are used Joe adds that the medicalization doesn't mean rescheduling - via drug policy alliance James says that last year alone had the most arrests for cannabis than any other year, even as more states are ‘legalizing’ Joe mentions a comment from Brian Normand who runs Psymposia, “Is cannabis really legal, if you can only have 6 plants? It's just heightened regulation.” James thinks that keeping cannabis illegal in the south is the main tool for racial profiling, it's the gateway drug to prison Brooklyn wants to release 20,000 cannabis offenders America James thinks living in America is like living in the belly of the beast There are so many forces at work in the US, James thinks the best thing for the world would be for it to break up in a few smaller countries, although it's probably not going to happen “It's not where you want to be, its where they'll have ya” - James The data that John Hopkins comes up with is what we need to fight the cognitive liberty we should have to take psychedelics Roland Griffith Joe says Stan Grof became uninterested in the research of psychedelics and became more interested in visionary art Creativity is what could help us survive “Art could be the next religion” - Alex Grey Reemergence of Spirit James thinks we are in an interesting time in history, all of the models and structures are collapsing, we are getting to an individualized view of everything. We have the right to create our own spirituality and religion. If we all go find what we find and then come together in clusters of like findings, that is a way for our spirituality to grow Daniel Pinchbeck mentions cloistering up in small subculture communities focused on individual sub aspects of what interest you Reemergence of spirit is important and can happen with the democratization of psychedelics Psychedelics play a role in inner reality and outer reality “Psychedelic perspective is the worldview that we take on as a psychedelic user, and its the perspective that the planet needs to survive. Whether as a society that we can shift to that perspective quick enough, is the issue. But the tools are in hand.” - James Burning Man James tells a story of this wealthy CEO who attends Burning Man, and gets back and realizes he's a rich asshole and starts contemplating how he can make his company better for the world and be better to his employees Burning Man has a lot of potential like psychedelics do, but it was easier back then Burning Man has blown up and isn't what it used to be These highly impactful experiences are more influential when they are small Boom, a festival in Portugal is a free environment because everything is legal, there is no paranoia Burning Man used to be free, but because things are still illegal, it has more of a defensive posture now There are so many resources, police, undercovers, put into Burning Man for how little of crime that happens Joe says its a means to scare the people There's a report that the administration put out recently that agreed that climate change is happening but they don't want to do anything about it Peter Thiel has been bragging about buying a whole country, New Zealand Psychedelics James says he is a very interested observer to see psychedelics ‘come out of the closet’ Is medicalization a means to take the fangs off of the drug war, or take power away from the psychedelic culture? James says medicalization is just a financial opportunity MDMA is leading the push toward legalization US Military is super interested in MDMA because of the PTSD Drone operators suffer from depression when they realize they are bombing people they've never even seen But the MDMA could keep these operators at the desk History of government's involvement in psychedelics Robert Forte - The Dark History of Psychedelics MK Ultra did happen Robert believes Albert Hofman was in charge OSS - Office of Strategic Services John Perry Barlow - founder of EFF Electronic Freedom Foundation John Gillmore - had the largest civil suit against the US govt. for phone tapping If you have an intense psychedelic experience, take some time and integrate it “The first place you go after a major psychedelic experience is the library” James says 5-MEO-DMT was the greatest intellectual adventure of his life He couldn't grasp the concept of quantum physics, after 5-MEO-DMT it was one of the only things that made sense Alexander Shulgin - plus four James had a paradigm shift after the first time smoking 5-MEO-DMT He says 5-MEO-DMT is extremely powerful, he doesn't do it as much anymore, because he appreciates how powerful it is He also believes that it's wrong for ‘shamans’ to take the drug while facilitating LSD is considered not powerful because its been dialed down People don't take the same dose that people used to in the 70’s Every community should have its own psychonaut James thinks people should not start with 5-MEO-DMT, but start with something less intense like mushrooms and a walk in the woods Joe did a lot of holotropic breathwork before taking psychedelics So many people go right to ayahuasca because they are out of the psychedelic culture and are being advertised to James is annoyed with people calling drugs medicine out of context, like at a festival He thinks toad is a sacrament, or therapy, not medicine. It hasn't healed anybody He believes that the ‘toad shaman’ culture will be eliminated once chemists start to synthesize 5-MEO-DMT The toads are coming from an overly populated desert, and with climate change, there is a lot of pressure on these species survival Final Thoughts James suggestions The 5-MEO-DMT experience is unique, it’s not like the typical psychedelic experience, not everyone should do it, and there are some serious negative side effects that could last for years if not integrated properly Start with classic psychedelics like LSD or mushrooms, and go for a walk outside Stan Grof’s house/library burnt down, Terence McKenna lost two libraries, and Jonathan Ott’s library burnt down. Decades of research burnt down Check out this FREE online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" James Facebook Typtamine Palace Facebook Instagram Youtube Book About James Journalist, photographer, and artist James Oroc was born in the small South Pacific nation of Aotearoa. Since 1998 he has been pursuing and reporting on the cutting edge of extreme sports in more than 40 countries around the globe, his work appearing in magazines, films, and on MTV Sports. He has been a member of the Burning Man community since 1999, and he is also involved in the documentation and advancement of “Alternative Culture.”
Download Tom Hatsis is an intellectual, occultist, psychedelic user and advocate from Portland, Oregon. In the show, Joe and Tom talk about his new book about microdosing. Joe prepares listeners about the controversial topic, magick, which is highly discussed in the show. Witch craft, western shamanism, old religion and magick are all mentioned during the conversation. Tom is a coordinator for Sanctum Psychedelica, a psychedelic club in Portland. 3 Key Points: Tom’s book Microdosing Magic is a book of templates for people to fill in the blank according to what works for them Magic isn't the ‘hocus pocus’ witchy stuff that people always assume, it's actually mind hacking, reframing and neurogenesis, that every individual is born with the ability to tap into Magic is a great way to create containers to frame our psychedelic experiences Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Tom Tom’s Book - Microdosing Magic: A Psychedelic Spellbook Tom thinks having a childlike wonder and being curious helped him write his book He has written 4 books, 3 have been in psychedelic topics Tom’s background - a part of the Roller derby background since 2005 His first book was called The Roller Derby: A Sensation that caused a Book, the Confessions of a Roller Derby Mascot. Then he got into psychedelic history and wrote The Witch’s Ointment, Psychedelic Mystery Traditions and his newest book, Microdosing Magic. Portland is a great place for the psychedelic renaissance Microdosing Magic Tom said we should be using psychedelics in a magical way Joe agrees saying when using psychedelics we should be flexible philosophically Joe mentions the Robert Anton Wilson reality tunnels We all have a B.S. (Belief System) and then reality tunnels are the marxist sunglasses and the capitalist sunglasses and feminist sunglasses, instead of having 40 glasses to see behind bias, we all have our own pair of shades Microdosing is a tool that helps people become childlike, more genius Magic Microdosing Magic is a book of templates for people to fill in the blank to what works with them Tom never tells people what to do with psychedelics, he is offering insight and techniques Using his own techniques, him and his partner are about to win a guinness world record “If microdosing is like a healthy diet and magic is like exercise, that's great. But what happens when you put healthy diet with exercise? You have something far more powerful than those two things could have been by themselves. That's how microdosing magic works.” Magic = mind hacking, re-framing and neurogenesis The Four Gifts Tom talks about ‘The Four Gifts’ in his book They make up the beginning of his personal magical system that he has cultivated over his lifetime Carl Sagan quote, “The cosmos are within us, we are a way for the universe to know itself” Tom agrees strongly with that saying, he thinks we are microdoses of that cosmic magic and from it, we've received 3 immaterial gifts, Intellect, Emotion and Will, however, due to our evolution in physical bodies, we've inherited a fourth gift, action The magical system is about aligning your intellect, emotion and will, so that when we take action, we are acting in pure magic Magic is super powerful, not something that happens at Disney World. It's a very real thing that every individual is born with the ability to tap into Orenda - the magic that you are born with Microdosing Magic is Tom’s small contribution to bettering the world Joe says there are so many people that practice subtle magic and don't even know it; in catholic religion, in yoga practice Tom has a friend who ‘doesn't believe in magic’, who is a hardcore material reductionist, who has a ‘lucky hat’ Tom - “This isn't for people with claws and fangs, magic is for anybody who recognizes their own power and wants to harness their power to make their lives and the world around them a better place” Neurogenesis, better firing, and re-framing happens in a person’s brain after consuming Psilocybin, Lions Mane and Reishi Tom says he was addicted to coffee, and after using Microdosing Magic, he hasn't needed a cup of coffee on 8 months because of his new neural pathways Joe jokes about overdosing on coffee for a few months on his coffee addiction Tom jokes back that he’d just drink it out of the pot Creative Genius Dr. George Land study - 98% of 5 year old scored in the creative genius category in the same test that 32 year-olds only scored 2% The modern education system robs us of our creative genius that we all had when we were kids, but at no fault to the teachers. The education system, buys these education models that just don't work Tom - “You have to use the internet wisely and not foolishly, to educate yourself and not de-educate yourself” The Book Tour Joe asks about the most interesting questions Tom has received on tour Most people ask about dose sizes and safety questions Tom explains that he gets nervous about certain questions because he isn't a medical professional or a therapist Tom “If you wouldn't take a psychedelic dose, don’t start microdosing” Microdosing Tom has been microdosing on and off for over 20 years “We didn't call it microdosing, we called it being broke, we could only afford 1/8th of acid, so we split it up. We felt way more energy, I started writing way more songs, I couldn't put my guitar down. It sparks that creativity” Joe says it's never been a better time for the psychedelic and microdosing renaissance Cannabis is now legal in 13 states FDA just approved mushrooms for PTSD in Canada MDMA is in phase 3 testing Tom says people in Silicon Valley, and believes people in Congress and DC are microdosing, they just can't talk about it He mentions a talk he just did in Salem, a very conservative place, and no one had any questions. And then after the talk, everybody came up to him privately and asked him their questions Tim Leary made a joke on Liberals not wanting to ‘risk face’ Joe comments on Tom’s book saying it was playful, inspiring, and not threatening like some magic can be Tom says we don't have villages for support anymore, we have community which has replaced that Sanctum Psychedelia’s main focus is community building Tom uses an example of people going to Peru, taking ayahuasca, and because they don't have that mystical framework, they come back to their regular lives and say “now what”? That's why integration and community are so important Tom says he’d love to see ayahuasca and ibogaine clinics with all the great results people have received from their heroine or cigarette addictions Tom’s favorite presentation ever was Mark Haden’s blueprint on the future of psychedelics psychotherapy Mark Haden's Presentation on Psycehdelics Mark Haden Psychedelic Reneissance Cannabis and the War on Drugs Tom likes to buy his cannabis directly from his farmer, he prefers to not have the government interfere He says Gene Simmons from KISS has been so anti cannabis and now all of a sudden is promoting cannabis Joe brings in the drug war issue, or the issue of people being put in jail for nonviolent crimes (cannabis) Tom brings in another issue, saying that if a person is charged for drugs at one point in time that later becomes legal, they aren't allowed freedom because of the fact that they did the crime during the time where it was illegal Racism and the war on drugs really bothers Tom Amanita and the True History of Christian Psychedelic History Predominant Paradigm - the ‘Holy Mushroom’ Tom says there aren't mushrooms in Christian art after doing the historical research Source He has debunked the Amanita Muscaria Santa Claus connection Psychedelic Santa Debate with John Rush The Mushroom in Christian Art: The Identity of Jesus in the Development of Christianity People say the Amanita Muscaria and Santa Claus outfit are the same colors, but Santa’s outfit comes from the American Flag Carl Ruck Dionysus in Thrace: Ancient Entheogenic Themes in the Mythology and Archeology of Northern Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey Psychedelic Christianity - a scholarly debate a scholarly debate pt. 2 Final Thoughts Tom - “Psychedelics are an excellent way to change your mind and yourself” Magic is a great way to create containers to frame difficult psychedelic experiences. It’s about putting new frames on your reality Links Tom's website Instagram Facebook Youtube Tom's Book Check out this FREE online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Tom . Thomas Hatsis is an author, lecturer, and historian of witchcraft, magic, Western religions, contemporary psychedelia, entheogens, and medieval pharmacopeia. In his spare time he visits rare archives, slings elixirs, and coaches roller derby.
Download Key Takeaways Bluebird Botanicals is leading the industry in third-party testing and Lab results, green initiatives and a stand on hemp policy. CBD helps cushion the psychoactive impact of THC on CB1 receptors, making for a less intense ‘high’. Lex has a lot of hope for the 2018 Farm Bill, and believes hemp has widespread uses that will open many market opportunities in the future. Intro Joe interviews Lex Pelger, Science Director of Bluebird Botanicals, a Colorado-based company. They talk about CBD and the issues with the FDA talking about health benefits. The use cases of hemp and drug war are discussed. Who is Lex Pelger? He is a Science Director of Bluebird Botanicals. Lex moves from New York to Colorado. He did a psychedelic storytelling open mic tour (Blue Dot tour) across the USA and it culminated at the MAPS Psychedelic Science Conference. Moved from the hustle of New York to Colorado to have his baby. The Cannabinoid Lex gets excited the more he learns about how intricate the endocannabinoid system is to humans and all mammals Bluebird Botanicals doesn't make any medical claims CDB supports health and homeostasis The cannabinoid system was discovered in the body only 25 years ago Opium and Cannabis were the two oldest plants used in the body There isn't anyone connection for cannabis, because there are so many receptors in the human body There is a ton of research happening on cannabinoids Lex thinks the research ban on phytocannabinoids is unfortunate Cannabis and cannabinoids are the most studied drugs in the US CBD functions as a homeostasis molecule Anandamide was the first endogenous cannabinoid discovered in the human brain in 1991 by a team led by Raphael Mechoulam in Israel Raphael Mechoulam discovered the final structure of THC in 1963 CB1 Receptor in the brain was discovered in 1991 also CB1 Receptor If the CB1 receptors are blocked in a human or animal, they won't get ‘high’ on weed The presence of CBD doesn't allow THC to fully bind to the CB1 receptor, so when CBD is present in THC, you won't get quite as high Lex thinks it's unfortunate that because weed has been in prohibition, it has been bred so hard to only have THC He thinks all weed should have a little bit of CBD to cushion the psychoactive nature of THC The Endocannabinoid System Joe says there is no profile to test the endocannabinoid system to know if a person is deficient or not, that he knows of Lex says if you get your genetic results from a company like 23 and me, it will tell you about your cannabinoid alleles A bad trip to a young brain can damage it forever The activists that annoy Lex are ones that refuse the obvious negatives Weed should not be given to all children The ‘Right to Fly’ Jonathan Thompson - Psychedelic Parenting Blog and Podcast How to create a community on psychedelics Noah Potter - Psychedelic Law Blog An open-source thought experiment in psychedelic law and policy “This plant is tied down by so many regulations” - Lex In the state of Colorado, you can't make new genetics Lousy laws made it hard to diversify the cannabis plant Lex believes Aldous Huxley’s book The Island is the best blueprint for what a sane integration of psychedelics and psychoactive might look like. Lex says people taking mushrooms in the woods together is so special, simply because a group of people is spending 6-8 hours with nature and with each other. Bluebird Botanicals Many different products - isolates, oils, vape juice, and topicals will be back soon Independent Lab Verification Leading the industry with third-party lab results Transparent about ingredients, NO pesticides used! Paired with Eurofins - world’s biggest testing lab Bluebird partners with the farmers, packaging partners, etc to be green and more eco-friendly always CEO Brandon hears about a new point of quality to be added, he goes for it Passed 99% inspection quality, CGMP Lex thinks its so nice to work for a company that focuses on giving back to the customers, focusing on employees, quality, the planet, and just giving back CBD Drug Law Changes in California The regulations restrict being able to add CBD to food, which goes is against the 2014 Federal Farm Bill Bluebird is on the board for the US Hemp Roundtable - Hemp Policy Jonathan Miller - Lawyer of the group and writer to address misinterpretation of the law “It's foolish to have the 1950’s 1960’s mindset of cannabis” - Joe Marijuana vs Hemp Both are cannabis plants Cannabis is the species, THC is more than .3% THC, Hemp is less than .3% THC “If a state inspector comes in and tests 6 samples and the results come up as .4% or .5%, they make you burn it. They don't burn it for you, you have to burn it yourself while you watch.” - Lex Cannabis is tricky to grow for commercial use It takes 3 generations for the plant to get used to the environment “Thank you, farmers, for being farmers” - Joe 2018 Farm Bill Mitch McConnell majority leader of the Senate, is pushing this because he comes from Kentucky, the Hemp state. The Senate version of the Farm Bill is correct, the House version has none of the correct language in it. McConnell and the pro-hemp committee will hash out the differences between the two bills. This Bill expands on all of the rights so it makes it look more enticing and safe for big businesses like Whole Foods and Banks. This bill is going to open up many markets. Hemp as an Industrial Product “What’s really cool about hemp is how widespread the uses are” - Lex The Hemperor, Jack Herer discovered all of the uses for the hemp plant Oil and plastic did win, hemp did not win as a top 10 commodity It’s a hard plant to work within the processing stage Thomas Jefferson stopped growing hemp because the retting stage was too hard on his slaves Hemp is not going to change all the markets it's been said it will transform Lex says hempcrete is fascinating. Using hemp as lubricants, bath bombs, and just the seeds are fascinating uses The Russians and the English fought in a war over access to hemp Hemp is a rope that doesn't get destroyed by saltwater, fueled the world’s Navy Fiber is so important, and hemp as a fiber was widespread Hemp seeds are a perfect mix of essential fatty acids Hemp seed made pigeons breed more Joe says there was a huge tradition of people eating pigeons Agriculture is so bad for topsoil, hemp can help repair our lands for us to keep surviving Hemp is a holy material in Korea Joseph Needham layed out all of China’s inventions and explained that the founders of Daoism had a cannabis-induced ‘dream’ and envisioned the first Daoist school where Yin and Yang came from Lex’s job as a Science Director for Bluebird Lex does a lot of education around CBD, Cannabinoid science conferences His passion for cannabis stems from his grandma’s medical condition He wanted to find a way to describe the cannabinoid system for elders to understand Lex is thankful for groups like Erowid, who sit down and interview our elders Lex tells a story about a man who took LSD in the woods, and fell to the ground and felt one with the trees, felt himself rooting down, and felt complete. He never forgot that feeling Lex thinks that a person should be stable before embarking on a psychedelic journey “Huxley says that therapists are attracted to psychedelics because of their own dark icebergs” - Lex. He thinks that therapists should be A gatekeeper, not THE gatekeeper Joe has been trying to get in touch with Dana Beal who popularized ibogaine “Dana Beal was an old-time, cowboy pot smuggler to fund yippie political activism, outreach, and political activism, so he could make the way that he made money, illegal” - Lex He used the system against itself Cannabis can cause catalepsy in people - which makes one ‘blackout’ 90% of cointel pros were against the Black Panthers Hoover feared them because they were black and he was racist They were extremely effective Lex explains that the war on cannabis has a racist framework, Nixon said “Because black people use cocaine and hippies use cannabis, we can use it against them” Lex goes on to talk about the history of the CIA, which puts its money into drug trade because it's untraceable, they protect the drug lords to use it for their own financial benefit He says the CIA and DEA are inefficient bureaucracies “Our belief at Bluebird, is we have to end the war on drugs. It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on people. The war on drugs is incredibly effective at doing what it was designed to do, and that was to hold, certain people groups down” Joe comments saying that there are babies being born and being brought into this world. He appreciates Bluebird for having proper business practice Final Thoughts Lex finished his Moby Dick Pot books about the endocannabinoid system and the war on drugs He says he based them on Moby Dick because it was the only thing large enough to fit the entire history of cannabis and war on drugs He does the Greener Grass Podcast for Bluebird which includes topics on cannabis and green initiatives. He is also a part of the Psychedelic Salon http://www.lexpelger.com/ https://bluebirdbotanicals.com/
Joe Moore interviews Brian Pace. He studies Evolutionary Ecology, is a science consultant at The Third Wave, and is the director of the project, Mind Manifest Midwest, and instigator of the “Find the Others” project. 3 Key Points: Psychedelics are not just illegal, they are also taboo, and Brian’s efforts are aimed to create spaces that make it more comfortable to talk about psychedelics. Online resources are great, but having local, and real psychedelic societies to create community will help people “come out” and be comfortable talking about their experiences. Brian’s interest evolved from ecology to psychedelics when he realized the issue of global warming. The top environmental problems are selfishness and greed, and changing people’s minds with psychedelics is a big hope for the planet. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes Getting Involved with The Third Wave Met Paul Austin of The Third Wave at the Global Ibogaine Therapy Alliance Conference. The conference was foundational in him becoming outspoken about psychedelics. Ibogaine - last resort option for people suffering from addiction. Brian and the team built The Third Wave with the goal to bring the conversation about psychedelics to be more comfortable among the general public. It has been good about building bridges to invite all types of people to the community, not just white males. It's important to be inclusive in this space. Find the Others Started at Psychedelic Science, to talk about what psychedelic societies are. Aware Project by Ashley Booth (www.awareproject.org) Psychedelics are not just illegal, they are also Taboo - Michael Pollan “Were having a cultural hangover from the upheavals we've had in the late 60’s and early 70’s.” - Brian “We can fight taboos when we can have conversations - about that which was taboo - in the grocery store, in the bar, with our parents. I think that's definitely what's needed with psychedelics.” - Brian Had the first psychedelic society meeting at a bar that included a presentation about plant secondary compounds and human health and ended with storytelling. 20% of Americans over the age of 15 have had some experience with psychedelics, 11% with LSD. (source unsure) Mitch Gomez from Dance Safe - more than 50% of the population of the U.S has done illegal compounds at age 15 and up. Psychedelics have taken a big chunk of that number. Cannabis is a great help for football players and traumatic brain injury. “If psychedelics are ever going to be reintegrated meaningfully in society, we are going to need some kind of mentorship.” - Brian Timothy Leary - “You're born with the right to fly”. If you start driving on LSD, you might lose that right. Find the Others, Mind Manifest Midwest, The Third Wave A collaborative project that allows people to speak in their own words what they are doing in their psychedelic societies. Psychedelic Societies are real, local and create community. MDMA for PTSD will be passed at the Federal level very quickly. Evolutionary Ecology Psilocybin - PhD focused on plant secondary compounds. The mycorrhizae network - “the Earth’s natural internet” - Paul Stamets Climate change Consumption - eating meat and driving cars The top environmental problems are selfishness, greed and apathy. Changing people’s mindsets with psychedelics could be an only hope. “Given that psychedelics have reliably induced mystical and/or religious experiences in people throughout time and across a variety of contexts, it seems natural that we should start organizing communities that help unpack and contextualize these experiences.” - Brian The status of our society Why do we have to work 55 hours a week to barely afford a 2 bedroom apartment? Guaranteed minimum income - an experiment in other countries. What does our society look like when it is less stressed? Timothy Leary “Who knows what you might learn from taking a chance on conversation with a stranger? Everyone carries a piece of the puzzle. Nobody comes into your life by mere coincidence. Trust your instincts. Do the unexpected. Find the others…” Helped create the importance of set and setting. Saw the inside of 36 prisons for possession of marijuana. Link Mind Manifest Midwest Find The Others Project Aware Project Check out this FREE online course, "Introduction to Psychedelics" About Brian Brian Pace, M.S. is a scientist by training and psychonaut by inclination. His interest in biology was piqued acutely as a teenager while experimenting with his own neurochemistry. For more than a decade, Brian has worked on agrobiodiversity, food sovereignty, urban cycling, and climate change in the US and Mexico. Brian is the co-founder of Mind Manifest Midwest (facebook.com/mindmanifestmidwest), a Columbus, Ohio based psychedelic society and the instigator of the Find the Others Project (findtheothersproject.org), a global collaboration of the burgeoning psychedelic society movement. Since 2016, he has contributed as a strategist for The Third Wave (thethirdwave.co). At The Ohio State University, he co-created a graduate-level class entitled: Cannabis: Past, present, and future cultivation for fiber, food, and medicine. He spent a year slogging around oil and wastewater pits left by Chevron-Texaco testing mycoremediation techniques in the Ecuadorian Amazon. All pipelines leak. Plant medicine is indigenous technology. Brian completes his Ph.D. in Plant Evolutionary Ecology this semester at OSU.